Transcript [00:00] But Rabbi, we're looking first off just [00:02] on the battle side. Tel Aviv hit last [00:04] night, but correct me if I'm wrong, the [00:07] center of gravity for the Israelis [00:10] obviously is the Persians, but now [00:12] you're going after the proxies. I [00:14] thought Hezbollah was dealt with, but [00:16] now it looks like Lebanon, uh, Beirut, [00:18] there's an evacuation. Lebanon, maybe [00:20] even parts of Syria. Uh, Rabbi, [00:24] >> well, I mean, the Lebanon situation has [00:26] been a an open sore since the official [00:30] ceasefire. And I say official ceasefire [00:32] because it hasn't really been much of a [00:33] ceasefire uh that was that was struck [00:35] over a year ago. And you know, the [00:39] Lebanese government had committed itself [00:42] to disarming by the end of 2025. And of [00:45] course, they did nothing about it. Not [00:47] because they didn't want to uh but but [00:50] they're actually incapable of disarming [00:53] is a much stronger army even in its in [00:55] its weakened state than the Lebanese [00:57] army itself. And there's also this [01:00] Shiite population that would have [01:01] resisted. But now that made the tragic [01:04] mistake, a mistake, frankly, I'll be [01:06] perfectly frank, the Israelis were [01:08] hoping they would make of firing [01:10] missiles at Israel in support of the [01:12] Iranian regime. They just invited the [01:15] Israelis in to finish the job and [01:17] disarmah themselves. So that's what the [01:20] Israelis are doing now. They're going in [01:22] there and the Lebanese are playing this [01:24] funny game where they're they're no [01:27] longer complaining about Israeli air [01:30] strikes as they used to. It used to be [01:33] when would attack Israel, Israel would [01:34] attack positions and then the Lebanese [01:36] government would make noises about being [01:38] upset about Israel attacking. And now [01:40] that's not happening. You actually have [01:42] even Shiites in the population. Even the [01:44] Amal party which is a Shiite party that [01:47] for decades has been the partner in the [01:49] government withah which also functions [01:51] as a political party. Amal voted to [01:54] declare [01:55] illegal the other day. Soah is now [01:57] isolated in Lebanon. Israel's going in [02:00] to finish them off. [02:01] >> Was that is this part of the Greater [02:03] Israel project? [02:05] >> Is this part of the Greater Israel [02:06] project? Are Israel smiting? Are they [02:09] smiting all their They smiting all their [02:11] their Israel has no interest in any [02:14] territory. [02:14] >> Hang on. Hang. [02:16] >> This is so ridiculous. [02:17] >> Hang on. By the way, by the way, you did [02:20] the best. [02:20] >> I know. There was an essay written a few [02:22] decades ago everyone still you guys love [02:24] talking about. [02:25] >> It has nothing to do with Israeli [02:26] policy. the [02:28] we talk about Israeli policy now because [02:31] the ID the Israeli air force delivered a [02:34] hammer blow the other night to the [02:36] command structure of and it looks like [02:38] they are focused on the command [02:39] structure maybe more than the Americans [02:41] it looks like ours with Captain Fenel's [02:44] degradation of the ability to actually [02:46] fight either force projection on their [02:48] people or force projection on their [02:50] neighbors uh you're still it looks like [02:52] the Israeli air force still very focused [02:54] on leadership decapitation [02:57] But this war is expanding not just in [03:00] the Gulf with with Persian versus Arab. [03:02] It's also expanding in Syria and Lebanon [03:04] and other areas, maybe even with the [03:07] Kurds. [03:09] >> Uh I mean a little bit into Syria. The [03:11] Syrians themselves aren't I mean we're [03:13] not going to we're not going to be [03:15] butdding up against Ashara or anything [03:16] like that, but you do have the issue [03:19] with the Kurds in Iraq is is uh is a [03:22] sticky one. I don't see uh Israel right [03:24] now being involved in that. Although [03:26] they did bomb a few Iranian IRGC bases [03:31] on the Iranian side of the Iraq Iran [03:33] border trying to set the stage for an [03:36] for a Kurdish incursion. But there's no [03:39] agreement between the Iranian Kurdish [03:41] groups and the Iraqi Kurdish groups who [03:43] are both in Iraq. If that's confusing, [03:45] sorry, that's the way it is. The Iranian [03:47] Kurdish groups are based in Iraq, but [03:48] they don't get along with the Iraqi [03:50] Kurdish groups, who are more aligned [03:51] with the Iranian regime and Turkey. Um, [03:54] this is this can get a little confusing, [03:56] but the key arena that Israel is [03:58] focusing in besides Iran is Lebanon. [04:01] Lebanon is on our northern border. [04:03] Steve, let's pull back the camera. [04:04] Israel's doctrine of defense changed [04:07] after October 7th and it is no longer [04:10] based on an evaluation. I've said this [04:12] on your show before. It's no longer [04:14] based on an evaluation of our enemy's u [04:18] intentions and are they deterred? Are [04:20] they not deterred? Can we make an [04:21] agreement with them? Can we can we [04:24] appease them with some economic deal [04:25] with the west? It's no longer based on [04:27] that. It's simply based on an evaluation [04:29] of capabilities. And when there are when [04:31] there are regimes or groups that pledge [04:34] openly that that their goal is the [04:37] destruction of Israel and and the [04:39] genocide of the Jewish people as the [04:40] Iranian regime does, as Hamas does, [04:42] asbellah does. So long as they have any [04:44] capabilities to harm Israel, we will [04:46] deal with those capabilities. And you [04:48] know, I was listening to Sam Fattis [04:50] before and and he's absolutely right. [04:52] The the Israelis goal is to eliminate [04:55] the threat. And the bottom line is if [04:57] you allow your country to be taken over [04:59] by insane people who do crazy reckless [05:02] things, then FFO, unfortunately, there [05:06] is there is a price to pay. And I'm with [05:08] you on the Iranian people. I'd love to [05:09] see a healthy regime change, but [05:11] whatever comes after this regime, no [05:13] matter how chaotic it is from Israel's [05:15] perspective, is not going to be as [05:17] dangerous as the regime itself. And [05:19] therefore, you know, Israel is going to [05:21] protect itself and it's going to look [05:23] after its own interests. Do we want a [05:25] regime that's more peaceful with us and [05:27] that is stable? Yeah, sure. It'll be [05:28] better for everybody. But top of the [05:30] agenda for Israel is simply eliminating [05:32] threats wherever they may be. And the [05:35] the threat from Lebanon withah, it's [05:38] been festering too long. The the [05:40] Lebanese government has not been willing [05:42] to do anything about it. So, Israel [05:43] stepping in and doing something. And it [05:45] seems that the Lebanese are actually in [05:47] favor of Israel dealing with the problem [05:49] once and for all, even though they're [05:50] not being too vocal about it. But that's [05:52] the signals that we're getting. [05:54] >> But just just just so we can be realist [05:56] though in in a lot of the leav you see [05:59] all this uh propaganda coming out that [06:01] we want a free and democratic uh Iran [06:04] and Persia. [06:05] >> I couldn't care. [06:06] >> And President Trump continues to talk [06:07] about that the happy ending that is like [06:10] World War II when we rebuilt Germany and [06:12] supposedly denazified and we we took out [06:15] Imperial Japan. Although we didn't make [06:17] any changes structurally, the same [06:18] people that ran Japan in 1939 were [06:21] essentially the same people that ran [06:23] Japan in 1946. The the the samurai [06:26] families that run the the trading [06:28] companies, the they they ran it. They [06:30] put a little phony thing on a [06:32] constitution and all that, but they ran [06:34] it. So, we didn't really make [06:36] fundamental changes in either nation. Uh [06:39] but it was on the surface a happy [06:41] ending. Well, [06:42] >> here. And I think Sam said it. I I don't [06:44] I don't care if we have I don't care if [06:46] we have I don't care if if Persia and [06:49] Iran go into a 30-year hell hole. I [06:51] could care less. They brought the [06:53] Islamic Republic on. We had the Shaw. Uh [06:56] and maybe didn't get there. Maybe he [06:58] wasn't democratically elected, but the [07:00] country had a thriving middle class or [07:02] at least was trying to do that. [07:04] obviously was very western and that [07:06] seems like it didn't assimilate into [07:08] Persian culture, but these people and [07:10] their parents and grandparents brought [07:11] it on. They're going to have to and I [07:13] would have loved to had a situation [07:15] where just economically with Scott [07:16] Bessant who was destroying their [07:18] currency and destroying the economy and [07:20] now we know and this is the hidden game [07:22] that nobody talks about. We never went [07:24] to what what UAE threatened the other [07:26] day in Dubai which was to cut off the [07:29] money there. They're all the Persians [07:31] cash is not really in Switzerland. It's [07:33] all in Dubai. And this is one of the [07:35] reason the sanctions have never been [07:36] 100%. People say, "Well, how can you [07:38] have these sanctions? They don't really [07:39] work because the Arabs, they're playing [07:41] double games all the time." And that's [07:43] why when UAE threatened to cut off their [07:45] money from Dubai, next thing you know, [07:48] Dubai's getting lit up. Uh, you know, [07:50] Dubai is kind of like Tortuga was for [07:52] the Caribbean pirates uh that that went [07:56] against the British Empire uh back, you [07:58] know, it's it's and that's what Dubai [08:00] is. It's it's a pirate cove. And now [08:02] you're getting down to it where you're [08:03] starting to take steal take their [08:05] assets, take all their cash and just and [08:07] and throttle them down. But I don't [08:09] care. They brought it on themselves. If [08:11] they're a hell hole for 50 years, [08:12] they're a hell hole for 50 years. I I [08:14] don't see if we spend one penny in [08:17] Ukraine or here reconstructing it and [08:19] not that penny in East Palestine, East [08:22] Palestine, Ohio. To me, that's a crime. [08:25] Rabbi, we'll look at your thoughts, sir. [08:28] Well, my thoughts, you said something [08:29] really interesting just before when you [08:31] were talking about how in the Japanese [08:33] regime after World War II, it ended up [08:35] being run by a lot of the same people [08:36] who were running it before. And you said [08:38] there was no real significant change, [08:40] but there was. And it connects directly [08:42] with to what President Trump just said [08:44] that he wants unconditional surrender. [08:46] Because the major change that happened, [08:48] even though Japan was run by the same [08:49] people, is that they dropped the [08:51] genocidal imperialist ideology that led [08:54] them to slaughter so many people in the [08:56] Far East and create the Second World War [08:58] in the Pacific theater. [08:59] >> So, and look at and look at Nazi [09:01] Germany. Nazi Germany also unconditional [09:04] surrender led to them becoming a fairly [09:07] benign state that that dropped the [09:09] genocidal ideology. You know, in in [09:12] January 1943 at Kazablanca is where [09:15] Roosevelt first said that peace can only [09:17] come to the world by the total [09:19] elimination of the Japanese, German, and [09:21] Italian war power, which means the [09:23] unconditional surrender of Germany, [09:25] Italy, and Japan. That was he used that [09:27] term then. And there's a direct causal [09:29] relationship between the unconditional [09:32] surrender and the breaking of those [09:34] genocidal ideologies. And this connects [09:36] with what you were saying before about [09:38] Mandani in New York. Islam is on the [09:40] rise. Europe has fallen. We know that [09:43] these guys are playing for keeps. And [09:45] the only way to push back is if there's [09:47] actually some sort of defeat. Now, what [09:49] happens after the defeat, how much chaos [09:51] there is, and how much of a mess there [09:53] is to clean up, that is for them to sort [09:55] out. But it is the I believe it's the [09:58] moral responsibility of people who are [10:00] good to deliver a defeat to those who [10:03] are evil. Roosevelt understood that and [10:05] it worked. Imperial Imperial Japan and [10:08] Nazi Germany cease to be evil regimes. [10:10] >> Now and and Iran one way or another [10:13] whether out of weakness or out of a [10:14] change of mindset will also will also [10:17] cease to be an evil regime. [10:19] >> Yeah. [10:20] >> So no offramp by Tuesday. I would also [10:24] >> submit that that should be Israel's [10:27] moral high ground to the west. Not [10:31] [music] our fight. Just not. [10:33] >> We're in it though. [laughter] We're in [10:35] it. And there's no offramp on Tuesday. [10:38] So, Rabbi Wiki, I understand you have a [10:40] big piece coming out in the Jerusalem [10:42] Post that's going to walk through. Plus, [10:44] you're you're making your maiden voyage [10:46] on Fox today. We make stars here at the [10:48] War Room. [10:50] >> We we we pride ourselves in providing a [10:52] platform that that makes future stars. [10:55] You're about to start turn. But your [10:56] your piece in the in the in the [10:59] Jerusalem Post is that you've been [11:01] talking to me. You've been working on [11:02] this for a while. It's quite interesting [11:05] and this is why I think as as much as [11:07] you know in the audience and everything [11:08] and we're trying to present all sides [11:10] here so people can make decisions for [11:12] themselves because this is this ain't [11:14] going away on Tuesday folks. It's just [11:15] not. We'd love it to but it's not. So uh [11:19] your uh piece is about regime change and [11:23] how there's seven or eight versions of [11:25] this but you don't think any of them are [11:27] going to turn out to be great. Is that [11:29] is that my understanding of the [11:30] Jerusalem Post column? Well, let's start [11:34] with the last line of the piece, which [11:35] is that no matter what comes after this, [11:39] nothing will be as bad as the regime [11:42] that has been that has been there for [11:44] the last 47 years. I don't care what [11:46] comes after it, nothing will be as bad. [11:48] But President Trump the other day [11:50] indicated that he prefers a Venezuela [11:52] option, which is a kind of, you know, [11:55] take out the top people and keep the the [11:57] bureaucrats and the structure in place [12:00] so that, you know, you can you can [12:02] prevent chaos. And there's a lot of [12:04] merits to that. There's also downsides. [12:06] In the piece, I walk through um what [12:08] that might look like and what the pros [12:09] and cons are. Or sectarian violence. [12:12] There was rumors about the Americans [12:14] arming and assisting the Kurds, the [12:16] Israelis also. And if the Kurds come in [12:18] there, that's going to disrupt things. [12:19] And then you have then you have mech. [12:21] You have all sorts of different factors [12:22] here. So I walk through the different [12:24] options for what regime change could [12:25] look like. And basically none of them [12:27] are very good. Um, in addition, you you [12:30] know, you mentioned my being on Fox [12:31] tonight, Steve. I I think what you're [12:33] implying is that War Room is the farm [12:35] team for Fox. I I I don't know if that's [12:37] going to sit so well with the posi, but [12:39] uh yeah, I am going to be on there. So, [12:41] if any of you ever dain to watch Fox at [12:44] the on the big weekend show at 7 p.m. [12:46] tonight, I'm going to be appearing [12:47] somewhere in there. That's what they [12:48] tell me. Uh, and uh, I've also been on [12:51] I've been featured in a docu series [12:53] they've been running on Fox Nation about [12:54] King David for the last few weeks. So, [12:57] yeah, my maiden voyage on Fox is coming. [12:59] And, uh, I know you have some other [13:01] guests waiting. I'm just going to give [13:02] my coordinates and sign off. Steve, I [13:04] really appreciate, you know, you just [13:06] mentioned that on Ward, we try to give [13:07] all sides. And I tell people all the [13:09] time uh in my community that only on [13:13] Steve Bannon's war room does everyone [13:15] get a say and and my voice is heard. [13:18] Then you have the people on the other [13:19] side and you're really giving your [13:20] audience a full picture of the different [13:22] approaches to this, you know, to this [13:23] situation and uh and that's what the war [13:26] room is all about and I'm honored to be [13:28] a part of it. [13:28] >> That's what we're trying to [13:29] >> All right. Uh so you can follow Rabbi [13:31] PW1X. You you can go to our Israel 365 [13:35] News YouTube channel, my own personal [13:37] YouTube channel. and of course [13:38] israel365action.com [13:40] and there you can sign up for our [13:41] newsletter, stay informed about what's [13:43] going on in the Middle East and with [13:44] Israel and uh and thank you again, [13:46] Steve. [13:49] >> Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Good [13:51] luck to