Transcript [00:00] I just saw a clip of Konstantin Kissin [00:03] being interviewed. It was published by [00:04] the Free Press and it was an interesting [00:07] clip of the interview where he was [00:09] talking about reasons why he is [00:11] skeptical about the war with Iran. [00:14] Meaning he's someone on the right, he's [00:16] someone he's not a leftist, but he has [00:18] his skepticism about whether or not the [00:21] war is going to achieve [00:24] is going is is going to turn out well [00:26] and in this clip he lays out a number of [00:28] reasons why what I'd like to do in this [00:30] video is we'll watch the clip of [00:32] Konstantin and then I will I will [00:35] respond to the various [00:37] arguments that he makes [00:39] and and give you my take. Okay, before [00:41] we do that, please go over to [00:42] Israel365charity.com. [00:45] Israel [00:46] 365 the number 365charity as one long [00:50] word.com and please give to our campaign [00:53] to help [00:55] all kinds of issues on the home front [00:56] with families that are struggling with [00:58] many many results of the current attacks [01:00] from Iran. It's a great way for you to [01:02] participate in easing the burden of [01:05] families in Israel who are struggling at [01:07] this time. Okay, let's head over to [01:08] Konstantin. Let's watch what he has to [01:10] say and then I'll give my take. [01:13] By the way, this idea that I find it [01:15] fascinating [01:16] as we sit here today um [01:19] the Joe Kent has resigned from his [01:22] position. He's a top counterterrorism [01:25] official for those who are not familiar [01:26] >> And in his statement he said that you [01:29] know, Israel dragged us into the war [01:31] which I mean I don't think there's any [01:32] evidence for that at all. But also I [01:34] just think it's an incredibly insulting [01:36] thing to American general and President [01:38] Trump specifically to suggest that a [01:41] very small country like Israel can drag [01:44] America into the conflict. Clearly [01:46] President Trump thought it was in the [01:47] United States interest to engage in [01:49] this. [01:50] And that I think can be true whether you [01:52] think it will go well or not and I'm [01:53] someone who [01:54] you know, I think [01:56] as I've said publicly the coin is in the [01:58] air and I don't think we know which way [02:00] it's going to land, but I'm increasingly [02:01] skeptical that this is going to go well [02:03] personally. Tell us a little bit more [02:04] about the skepticism. I mean I checked [02:06] crude oil I think is at 96 today. It's [02:08] been higher um it's it's it's since come [02:11] down and I think a lot of Americans are [02:13] really torn. So I'm curious what your [02:14] perspective is. Well, first of all, I I [02:17] think it's fair to say that the things [02:19] that people are saying about the [02:21] rationale for this conflict are not [02:22] true. Mhm. I do not believe that it's [02:25] true that Iran was about to pose a [02:27] threat to the United States. You think [02:29] it was like window of opportunity? [02:31] Uh my understanding is that they they [02:34] thought that they could take out Iran's [02:36] nuclear program and ballistic missile [02:38] program and also some of its leaders. [02:41] Mhm. This is the bit I understand even [02:43] less than the others and this [snorts] [02:45] was the opportune moment to achieve [02:46] that. But the problem is [02:49] and this may be my ignorance and my lack [02:51] of expertise and all of it it's [02:52] perfectly possible and I'm open to that [02:54] possibility and President Trump I think [02:55] it's fair to say has proved his critics [02:57] wrong on a number of occasions in the [02:58] past. So I'm open to to the to the [03:00] possibility that that might happen. But [03:03] currently as I sit here I don't [03:04] understand the strategy. [03:07] So for example, the 12-day war, the idea [03:09] that you bomb Iran's nuclear facilities [03:12] >> Right. sign me up. I think that's great, [03:14] wonderful. Except we now learn I think [03:16] and I think it's clear given that [03:18] they've attacked again that we didn't [03:20] get the nuclear material at the time. [03:22] >> Not obliterated as they would have said. [03:24] >> obliterated and in fact there is some [03:26] satellite imagery showing a bunch of [03:27] trucks leaving those facilities. [03:29] >> The 16 cargo trucks. [03:30] >> Right. [03:31] >> Yeah. So clearly they didn't get the [03:33] nuclear material and clearly as you and [03:36] I sit here today they still haven't got [03:38] it. Otherwise I imagine they wouldn't [03:40] would be done. Right? [03:42] So we haven't got the nuclear material. [03:44] What we have done is given the Iranian [03:46] regime every incentive to develop an [03:48] actual nuclear weapon because that's how [03:50] you ensure your own security. [03:52] >> Mhm. What is the one thing that would [03:54] have prevented the United States and [03:56] Israel if they had a nuclear weapon? So [03:58] if you are the Ayatollah or the [04:00] Ayatollah's son or the guy who gets [04:02] who's there after he gets killed or the [04:03] guy who's killed, what's the rational [04:05] thing for you to do? Rational thing for [04:06] you to do would be to actually develop a [04:08] nuclear weapon and the United States and [04:10] Israel haven't destroyed your nuclear [04:12] stockpile. Mhm. [04:14] Uh so that's one issue. The other issue [04:16] is regime change. Um [04:18] I'm not clear on what the rationale is [04:21] behind the timings of this may be just a [04:22] practical reality of it takes X number [04:25] of days or weeks to get your battle [04:27] groups to the Middle East. But [04:30] um you just watched 30-something [04:31] thousand protesters get killed. [04:34] Those were the people who would have [04:36] done the regime change that you wanted [04:38] after you'd taken out the Ayatollah. [04:40] Well, now they're all dead. Mhm. And you [04:42] are now bombing people [04:44] in order to do regime [04:47] Can you name one instance in human [04:49] history when air strikes have achieved [04:51] regime change on a country of the size [04:53] of Iran? I mean [04:55] Japan may be one example, but you had to [04:58] drop two nuclear weapons and even about [05:01] that there's still you know, as a [05:03] someone from from the former Soviet [05:05] Union I have to say, you know, [05:07] what happened in between those two [05:08] nuclear bombs being dropped is the [05:10] Soviet Union attacked Japanese forces in [05:12] China. Yeah. And that may have been [05:14] actually the final straw as well. We [05:16] don't know. My point being is I don't [05:18] think there's any evidence to suggest [05:19] that bombing people produces regime [05:22] change. [05:23] Or that the regime you create as a [05:24] result of that is a better one than the [05:27] one you had before. So Ayatollah gets [05:30] killed, his son [05:32] is injured. I think his son's wife and [05:35] and son killed. killed. [05:37] >> Yeah. [05:38] Does that make you more moderate? [05:40] Well, this I think this is a good [05:41] critique is that like 11 billion dollars [05:43] for one hominy to be replaced by another [05:45] hominy. I think the idea was that you [05:47] know, the bombings would facilitate such [05:50] instability that people would [05:52] topple the government. That said They're [05:54] all dead. Those people who would have [05:56] done the toppling. Well, there I mean [05:59] some people think that there's enough [06:01] middle class that's unhappy with the [06:02] regime. That said, you know [06:06] the opposition isn't organized. I mean [06:08] that's like the biggest critique. Is [06:09] that even if there was the [06:11] >> Right. the instability And also you have [06:14] 200,000 members of the Islamic [06:17] Revolutionary Guard Corps, a million men [06:19] in the Iranian military [06:22] and you're expecting middle class [06:24] protesters to go up against that and be [06:26] successful? I don't think so. [06:28] And then on top of that, the other [06:29] problem you've got is [06:32] um [06:32] the Iranians from what I understand have [06:35] given it's I think it's called Mosaic [06:37] Doctrine or something like that whereby [06:39] effectively local units have been given [06:41] standing orders irrespective of who's [06:43] formally the head of the country which [06:45] means that the Strait of Hormuz is going [06:47] to remain it's not actually closed [06:49] because Chinese vessels and Indian [06:50] vessels are making their way through it. [06:52] >> Totally. [06:53] But what you have is a bunch of oil, but [06:55] not just oil, you have [06:57] half of the world's traded chemical [07:00] fertilizer Right. going through that and [07:03] it's not coming out. We are now in [07:05] planting season so you've got food [07:08] security issues coming down the pipe. A [07:10] lot of the plastic that's made in the [07:12] world, the helium which we use for [07:14] cooling chip manufacturing facility all [07:17] of this stuff. [07:19] And it does not strike me that this has [07:22] all been included in the strategy. [07:25] So [07:26] I worry [07:29] like I said I just come back to what I [07:30] said earlier. There's a very real [07:32] possibility that President President [07:34] Trump is the smartest man in the world [07:35] and there's the art of the deal and [07:37] everything's going to happen [07:38] wonderfully. [07:39] At this point as I sit here looking at [07:41] at the facts that I see I am seriously [07:44] concerned that this will drag on Mhm. [07:47] and [07:48] will not end well. And by the way, will [07:51] not lead to the stated objective even of [07:55] preventing nuclear [07:57] escalation or preventing nuclear [07:58] breakout. Mhm. So [08:01] I'm just struggling to see how this ends [08:03] well at this point. Doesn't mean it [08:04] won't, but I'm struggling to see it. [08:06] We'll see if there's an ace up his [08:07] sleeve. Um but I think that's a good [08:08] place to end. So [08:11] Okay. [08:12] Let's [08:13] So let's break this down. [08:15] Let's break down what Konstantin Kissin [08:17] is saying and what he's getting wrong. [08:20] I have to start by saying that I have [08:23] tremendous respect for Konstantin. I [08:25] enjoy listening to him. I find him to be [08:26] very rational and reasonable and I [08:28] believe that if he watched this video, [08:31] if someone out there knows him and wants [08:33] to send it to him, if he watched this [08:34] video and heard my arguments, he might [08:37] very well accept some of them because in [08:39] this video he reveals that he actually [08:43] has a very shallow understanding of the [08:46] regime in Iran and the issues at hand [08:48] and [08:50] and I'm sure he would be happy to be [08:51] educated about these issues and have a [08:53] conversation about them because that's [08:54] the way Konstantin is. He's a very [08:56] reasonable person and he doesn't pretend [08:57] to be an expert about things that he is [09:00] not an expert in. So let's talk about [09:02] it. Okay, first of all, the first point [09:04] he brings up is that he doesn't believe [09:06] that there was an [09:07] that that there was an imminent threat [09:08] to America. Look. [09:11] This war was not about the nuclear [09:13] facilities. [09:15] What? What do you mean it wasn't? Yeah, [09:16] well [09:17] it was about the ballistic missile [09:18] capabilities. [09:20] Iran had [09:22] it since the 12-day war. If you go back [09:25] to last year, Iran was producing between [09:27] 30 and 50 ballistic missiles per month. [09:31] In the last few months that got ramped [09:33] up to over a hundred ballistic missiles [09:36] per month and they were increasing the [09:39] rate at which they're producing them and [09:41] amassing thousands of ballistic missiles [09:44] including longer range ones, better [09:47] ones. They had better missile [09:49] capabilities going into this war than [09:51] they had before the 12-day war. Why is [09:53] that the issue? Why is the ballistic [09:54] missiles the issue? Lots of countries [09:56] have ballistic missiles. The issue is [09:59] that and Marco Rubio laid this out very [10:02] clearly in a press conference right at [10:03] the beginning of the war. And this is [10:04] such an important point for everyone who [10:05] thinks it's about the nuke How close [10:07] were they to a nuclear bomb? Nuclear [10:09] this, nuclear that. [10:12] And didn't we destroy it in the 12-day [10:14] war? That's a misunderstanding. [10:16] Marco Rubio said it very clearly. [10:19] The The issue is that once they have a [10:22] massive stockpile of ballistic missiles [10:25] of long-range ballistic missiles of [10:26] powerful ballistic missiles, the [10:28] ballistic missiles become a shield. They [10:30] become an umbrella that shields the [10:32] regime and allows them to then pursue a [10:36] nuclear weapon. [10:38] Okay? [10:40] And he even said there, well, you know, [10:42] and he went on on the nuclear thing [10:44] saying, you know, doing what we're doing [10:45] now only gives them an incentive to have [10:47] a nuclear weapon. [10:51] Let's back up and just talk about the [10:52] Iran and nuclear weapons. And this is [10:54] something if you follow this channel, [10:55] you know this, but I it must be [10:57] repeated. It It must be repeated every [11:00] day because if you don't understand this [11:02] point I'm about to say, you don't [11:04] understand this war at all. [11:07] And that is what the ideology of Shia [11:11] Twelver Islam, the branch of Shia Islam [11:15] that this regime that the people at the [11:17] top of this regime adhere to, that they [11:19] believe in. [11:21] We call this Islam and we call the Sunni [11:24] Islam that we see in the West or in [11:26] Saudi Arabia or elsewhere, we call it [11:27] all Islam. Shia and Sunni Islam are like [11:30] two different religions. They have [11:31] different goals. [11:33] They operate in [11:35] differently. They focus on different [11:36] things. [11:38] Shia Twelver Islam is not a very big uh [11:41] uh [11:42] percentage of the of the Muslim world. [11:44] It's not a It's certainly not a [11:45] majority. It's a small minority, but it [11:47] is the regime in Tehran [11:50] and Hezbollah and the Iraqi militias. [11:54] Not the Houthis. The Houthis are a [11:55] different type of Shia, okay? But the [11:57] Sunni Twelver Muslims in Iran, [12:00] their goal [12:02] is to bring the Mahdi. He's their [12:04] Messiah figure, the 12th Imam. [12:07] I'm not going to get into the whole [12:08] thing. It's a hidden Imam. He goes into [12:09] hiding, comes back, whatever. It's a [12:12] Messiah figure called the Mahdi. But [12:14] here's the key that you need to know to [12:16] understand this war and that Constantine [12:17] clearly does not know [12:19] because it affects a number of things [12:20] that he says. [12:23] The way the Mahdi comes to the earth The [12:25] way that he returns. The way the Messiah [12:27] comes. The way the Mahdi comes [12:29] is by bringing the world to a point of [12:31] apocalyptic chaos. [12:34] Okay? By sowing chaos. [12:37] By sowing extreme chaos and bringing the [12:40] world to the to the brink of apocalypse [12:42] and chaos, [12:43] that is what summons the Mahdi. That's [12:46] how you bring the Messiah in Shia [12:48] Twelver Islam. It's not like Sunni [12:50] Islam. It's not like other ideologies. [12:54] Which means [12:56] number one, you don't give need to give [12:57] them an incentive to build a nuclear [12:59] weapon. They've been single-mindedly [13:01] trying to build a nuclear weapon for [13:02] many years. [13:03] Israel and the Americans in different [13:06] ways, but Israel especially has been [13:07] carrying out all sorts of activities on [13:09] the ground. They stole their nuclear pro [13:12] program paperwork. They've been killing [13:14] nuclear scientists. They've been [13:15] sabotaging the Iranian nuclear program, [13:17] cyberattacks for years and years and [13:19] years. But the Iranians kept persisting [13:22] and kept moving forward. Why? Even [13:24] though their country's collapsing, even [13:25] though their people don't have water, [13:27] even though their everything's collap [13:28] That's all they care about. Why? Because [13:30] they're Shia Twelver Muslims and they [13:32] want a nuclear weapon and they want to [13:33] use it. This isn't the same and here's [13:36] another Here's something that that a lot [13:38] of people in the West haven't really [13:40] internalized about this cuz they look [13:41] around the world and they see the North [13:43] Koreans have nuclear weapons. Pakistanis [13:45] have nuclear weapons. The Russians have [13:46] nuclear weapons. There's all There's a [13:48] number of bad actors in the world. The [13:50] Pakistanis. [13:52] Did I say them already? There's a number [13:53] of bad actors in the world who have [13:55] nuclear weapons and that and that's and [13:57] that and because they're not using them [13:58] and it doesn't and no one wants to pull [14:01] that trigger, we think of them only as [14:03] as a kind of deterrence thing. We're [14:05] like, you know, Kim Jong-un has nuclear [14:06] weapons and that protects him [14:08] from his regime falling because he can [14:10] defend himself with a nuclear weapon. [14:13] That's not the same when you're talking [14:15] about the mullahs in Tehran. They are a [14:17] totally different animal. They are a [14:20] totally different situation. They are [14:22] Twelver Shiites. They're not even Sunnis [14:25] like the Pakistanis. They're Twelver [14:26] Shiites. They want their whole religious [14:29] goal, their whole faith goal is to bring [14:31] an apocalypse to the world. [14:34] Their drive You don't need to give them [14:35] any more incentive. It's not like, oh, [14:37] now they have more incentive to build a [14:38] nuclear weapon. That's a [14:39] misunderstanding of their whole mindset. [14:42] All they've been trying to do since the [14:44] 12-day war is ramp up the ballistic [14:46] missile production and start the process [14:49] of rebuilding the nuclear weapons so [14:50] that the ballistic missiles can get to a [14:52] point that they have a shield for their [14:55] nuclear program so that they can bring [14:56] the apocalypse. That's what they want. [15:00] Okay? This is [15:01] This This has to be understood. You [15:03] don't need to give them an incentive and [15:05] it's not about the threat of the nuclear [15:06] weapon being imminent. [15:09] Okay, now, he then went on to talk about [15:10] airstrikes and regime change. You can't [15:12] bring about a regime change with [15:13] airstrikes. Let's Let's bifurcate the [15:16] issue of regime change into two things. [15:19] There's removing the regime, which is a [15:22] strategic goal certainly of Israel. [15:25] Why? Cuz the Israelis [15:28] Israel has been at war with this Iranian [15:30] regime since it began. All of our [15:32] problems, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis [15:35] and and the funding of Palestinian [15:36] Islamic Jihad, this is all Iranian. [15:39] Okay? If you If you take the Iranian [15:41] regime off the table, [15:43] whether because they've collapsed into [15:45] chaos or they're just not there or it [15:47] becomes a Jeffersonian democracy in [15:49] Iran, whatever it becomes, doesn't [15:51] matter. If you take this regime off the [15:53] table, they also propped up the Assad [15:54] regime. [15:55] If you take them off the table, [15:58] the Saudis aren't going to attack [15:59] Israel. Egypt's not going to attack [16:01] Israel anytime soon. Jordan is a is a [16:03] friendly country. Lebanon is not going [16:05] to attack [16:06] If you look around at the Middle East, [16:09] Israel solves its in great measure, in [16:12] large measure, Israel solves its [16:14] security issues by removing this regime. [16:16] That's why they're doing this. [16:18] So there's regime collapse or regime [16:20] removal and then there's regime change. [16:23] It is not an objective of the Israelis [16:25] or the Americans to change the regime. [16:27] It's their objective to remove the [16:29] regime. [16:31] It's up to the Iranian people to change [16:33] the regime once it's removed, okay? [16:36] So Constantine says, well, you don't [16:38] know what you're going to get. You might [16:39] end up with something that's worse than [16:40] what you had before. That is not a [16:42] possibility here. [16:44] Okay? What we had before was a regime [16:47] that was involved in drug trafficking [16:50] and human trafficking all over the [16:51] world, had terrorist or It was a [16:53] multinational terrorist infrastructure, [16:55] funding terrorism all over the region, [16:58] committing mass acts of murder all over [17:01] the region, building up weapons putting [17:04] weapons into the hands of the worst [17:06] terrorists all over the world, [17:07] slaughtering its own people, persecuting [17:10] its own people. [17:12] I mean, there is no way to have a [17:14] situation that's worse. Let me Let me [17:15] put it another way. [17:17] Let's say the worst-case scenario that [17:18] Constantine envisions and a lot of other [17:20] people envision happens and and Iran [17:22] turns into a [17:25] a mess and there's and there's all kinds [17:26] of of internecine strife and and [17:29] militias fighting each other and that it [17:31] it devolves into civil war. Let's say [17:33] the worst-case scenario there happens. [17:35] That's still better than this regime. [17:38] Okay? There is no, oh, you might get [17:40] something that's that's not better than [17:42] what we had before. You can't have a [17:44] worse situation than that regime in [17:46] power intact. [17:48] Okay? [17:49] Again, the the strategic goal here is [17:51] not about what comes next. That's up to [17:53] the Iranian people. It's about removing [17:55] the regime, taking it off the table [17:57] because the Israelis and the Americans [17:59] realize at some point you're dealing [18:00] with these Twelver Shiites and you're [18:02] and they keep driving towards a nuclear [18:04] weapon. They keep driving towards [18:05] ballistic missiles and they keep funding [18:07] their proxies and sowing chaos and and [18:09] death all over the world. [18:11] There's no negotiating with them. The [18:13] only way you can actually stop this [18:15] long-term and not kick it down the road [18:17] to future generations is by removing the [18:20] regime. That's it. [18:22] And when he says there, well, does [18:24] killing come and his family make him [18:25] more moderate? There's no moderate here. [18:27] It's a misunderstanding of Shia's of [18:29] Shia Twelver Islam. That's that same [18:32] blind spot that Constantine has. [18:35] Okay, and then he brought up the fact [18:37] that the the Iranian people, how can [18:38] they stand up to the IRGC and to the [18:41] Basij? And he but he didn't mention the [18:43] Basij. He mentioned the Iranian [18:44] military. Now, the Iranian military, the [18:47] Iranian army, which is a standing army, [18:49] he said it's about a million. Let's take [18:50] that number. They've never ever been [18:53] involved in suppressing protests and [18:55] they won't ever be involved in [18:56] suppressing protests. They're not who [18:58] Israel is targeting. They're not who the [18:59] Americans are targeting. They're sitting [19:01] this out, the Iranian military. They're [19:03] firing some missiles cuz they have [19:05] orders to do so. [19:06] But that's not who the Iranian people [19:08] are going to have to go up against. The [19:09] Iranian army is not the IRGC. It's not [19:12] the Basij. There's like two armies in [19:14] Iran. [19:15] Okay? It's the IRGC and the Basij that [19:17] are the regime. The Iranian military [19:19] will happily see the end of this regime [19:22] and change sides. They haven't changed [19:24] sides yet. [19:26] But the Iranian military is not going to [19:27] be suppressing protests. That's not [19:29] their job and they're never going to do [19:30] it. [19:31] They'd be shooting their own family [19:32] members. [19:35] Okay? [19:36] So they don't have to stand up again the [19:39] people of Iran don't have to stand up [19:40] against the Iranian military. What [19:41] Israel's doing now is they're wiping out [19:44] layer after layer of leadership in the [19:46] Basij and the IRGC and going to be [19:48] hovering drones over the public areas [19:52] when the people eventually do come out [19:54] into the streets and it's not time yet. [19:56] They'll come out when the besieged and [19:58] the IRGC have been degraded to a point [20:01] that they will that there is a the best [20:03] chance for success in the protest and [20:05] then the Israelis will will have assets [20:08] in the air. They've already said this. [20:10] Making sure that they don't get killed. [20:12] Making sure that the protesters that [20:13] anyone who shoots a protestor is going [20:14] to be shot by a by an Israeli drone [20:17] hovering overhead and there's no air [20:18] defenses to stop them. [20:21] Now, the fact that the the opposition is [20:23] not organized that was raised in the [20:24] conversation also is true. The [20:25] opposition we don't know how organized [20:27] they are. We don't know how organized or [20:29] disorganized they are. That that remains [20:31] to be seen. But again, it doesn't matter [20:34] in terms of the importance of removing [20:36] the regime. [20:39] >> [laughter] [20:40] >> Look again, bottom line is the only [20:43] This let me [20:44] say something else. [20:46] Bottom line, I'm going to end the video [20:47] this way. [20:48] I'm going to stop talking. [20:51] The the regime in Tehran [20:54] >> [clears throat] [20:55] >> will be a problem. They will pursue [20:58] nuclear weapons. They will [21:00] fund terrorism. They will try to sow [21:02] chaos and destruction and murder all [21:05] over the world. They will suppress their [21:06] people and murder them if they rise up. [21:09] They will do all of this because it's [21:11] who they are and it's what they believe [21:13] in so long as they're in power. [21:16] And to say, well, you can't you know, [21:17] it's it's too much and the regime [21:19] there's so many so [21:21] you know, there's so many members of the [21:22] of the military, there's so many members [21:23] of the IRGC. It's not so easy. It's [21:25] difficult. Of course it is. Of course [21:26] it's difficult. [21:28] And there's no guarantee of success. [21:32] But [21:34] all all we're advocating for is to kick [21:38] it down the road to a better more [21:39] opportune moment to try to solve this [21:42] problem. And this was the most opportune [21:44] moment to solve this problem because of [21:45] what happened in the 12-day war and [21:47] because of the way Israel has decimated [21:49] and and degraded the Iranian proxies [21:52] over the last couple of years since [21:53] October 7th. And [21:55] and because of the protests and the [21:57] economic collapse that's happening in [21:59] Iran, all of these factors made it a [22:02] good time [22:05] and Trump in office and willing to do [22:06] it. If this all made it a good time to [22:09] actually step up to the plate for the [22:11] first time in 47 years that [22:13] the president of the United States, [22:15] Israeli Prime Minister that they step up [22:16] to the plate and actually deal with this [22:18] regime once and for all. That's why it [22:20] makes sense. Not because it's guaranteed [22:21] to succeed and it might devolve into [22:23] chaos but let's let's remember we have [22:25] to we'll we'll have to remember this. [22:27] Save this for when it does if it does [22:29] devolve into chaos. [22:31] That no outcome of this war, no matter [22:34] how chaotic it is there, will be as bad [22:37] as that regime remaining in power. And [22:40] that's the key. That's the key blind [22:42] spot in what uh Constantine was saying [22:44] there. [22:45] And uh I hope he sees this video. That'd [22:47] be kind of cool. I would love to have [22:48] I'd love to talk to him about this. But [22:50] yeah, there's a lot of ways that this [22:52] could go sideways but none of them none [22:54] of those ways that it could go sideways [22:56] are as bad as the regime as it was [22:59] remaining in power. And let's say the [23:01] regime still remains in power at the end [23:02] of this. They will be so weakened and so [23:04] battered that it's still a gain. It's [23:07] still a net gain for for the region, for [23:10] Israel, and for the people of Iran [23:12] because now it'll be much harder for [23:14] them to suppress their people if there's [23:15] anything left of the regime. I mean, [23:16] right now day by day more and more of [23:19] their leadership's being taken out. [23:21] Anyway. [23:22] Look, I'm not claiming that this war was [23:25] the best idea right now. Maybe there's [23:27] other things that could have been done. [23:28] Maximum sanctions to squeeze the regime [23:30] even more to cause their collapse. [23:33] That's it that's [23:34] that's neither here nor there. The [23:36] bottom line is the arguments that [23:38] Constantine makes in this in this uh [23:41] in what he said here really show that he [23:43] does not really understand who the [23:45] people in the regime are, what their [23:48] real belief is, um [23:51] and and and and why it was so critical [23:54] to deal with this situation once and for [23:56] all. All right. Have a great weekend [23:57] everyone. Bye-bye.