Transcript [00:00] I know that in many places in the world [00:02] if you left your religion [00:04] what would happen? [00:06] Guess what? Let me tell you something. [00:07] >> It would be okay. You could walk inside [00:09] you could walk inside a door and Gaza [00:11] and say, you know what? I'm a [00:12] Presbyterian today. [00:14] Maybe not in Gaza to be honest, but you [00:16] can do it in Jordan, you can do it in [00:18] Lebanon. The majority of you are blaming [00:20] the majority for the for the criminal [00:22] acts of a minority. It it doesn't [00:24] matter. [00:25] >> Unfortunately, the majority are [00:25] disorganized and there's a small [00:27] minority that are well organized and [00:29] they're controlling the narrative. I [00:30] have to move on. So, I want to talk [00:31] about an old clip, but it's a clip that [00:34] is extremely relevant to a lot of the [00:36] issues that we're dealing with today. [00:38] Have a look. [00:39] These students, same student, feel [00:40] offended. [00:42] Feel offended that you [00:44] your views of Islam, the generalization [00:47] and they said it clearly in their [00:48] declaration said the generalization [00:50] perpetuate bigotry. This is what they [00:52] said. Look, I am all for freedom of [00:55] speech. I love debates. I hate [00:56] monologues. [00:58] When you invite somebody to a [00:59] commencement speech, you said it. It's [01:01] about the students. And the New York [01:02] Times in this piece to this morning said [01:04] you can [01:05] counter a bad speech with a good speech. [01:08] Except they don't have that venue. They [01:10] don't have that opportunity that day of [01:12] graduation. They can't opt out of that. [01:14] I understand what you're saying about [01:16] that subject as I just said. [01:18] >> telling you anything about that subject [01:19] as I just said. But does that mean is a [01:21] commencement speech. This is a [01:22] commencement address. Every commencement [01:24] speech is one student who are actually [01:26] Listen, would you accept [01:28] an openly anti-Semitic person giving a [01:31] commencement speech to Jewish student? I [01:34] I wouldn't actually I actually would not [01:35] accept that. [01:36] >> As I just said, even Reza Aslan says I'm [01:38] not a bigot. So, I rather resent the [01:40] idea that I'm comparable to an [01:41] anti-Semite. All I've ever done was [01:44] basically read facts. [01:47] What facts did you read? Never invite [01:49] But listen [01:50] You are comparing [01:51] I am sorry that No, I I don't think we [01:53] want to read [01:53] >> You are comparing jihadist, Salafist, [01:57] Sunni. You don't know the difference. [01:59] You're comparing You're almost Muslim in [02:01] one part [02:02] And I am actually secular secular [02:04] Muslim. And when you talk about Islam in [02:06] a certain way, I have to tell you and [02:08] it's it's offensive sometimes and it [02:11] some people feel free [02:11] >> But it's okay to be offensive. That's [02:13] what free speech is all about. If free [02:14] speech is only speech you like, it's not [02:16] free speech. [02:18] Nobody they invited him for a debate. He [02:21] can go to the debate. I will accompany [02:23] you in that debate if you want. I'm [02:24] happy to have that debate wherever you [02:25] want. He was invited to be a [02:26] commencement speaker and then he made a [02:28] statement that people didn't like. [02:30] I don't know what to say. I can [02:31] understand. [02:32] >> Can you be gay in Gaza? [02:34] Yes, you can. Really? Yes, you can. And [02:36] live? Absolutely okay. [02:38] You know what? It's even more offensive [02:40] because you're saying [02:40] >> asking cuz I've heard different things [02:42] about [02:42] >> in Gaza. [02:43] >> Really? I traveled the Middle East. Is [02:44] there a gay bar in Gaza? This is what I [02:46] do for a living. You are comparing the [02:49] majority of Muslim states with Saudi [02:53] Arabia or with happy with the [02:54] >> Should I call Aslan and get him back [02:55] here so we can You don't have to You [02:57] know this is [02:58] Do you want to listen or you want to [02:59] watch? I think it's about I think it's [03:01] about whether someone can be invited to [03:03] give a speech and people will listen. [03:06] Maybe they'll agree with it, maybe they [03:07] won't. But we don't have [03:10] a situation in in Berkeley where people [03:12] can't give a speech. I mean, that's the [03:14] whole essence of the American system is [03:17] people can give a speech. Not everybody [03:18] has to agree with The Muslim community [03:20] in this country, you are treating them [03:22] like fifth columnist and they are not. [03:24] No, I'm not. And then guess what? If [03:26] these people these people are the Muslim [03:28] community feel threatened and then feel [03:30] offended and they are underrepresented [03:32] in the media and underrepresented in [03:34] political avenues. You never invite them [03:36] here on these issues. [03:37] >> Never invite them here. You're here. [03:39] Reza's here. See him. [03:41] They're here all the time. [cheering] [03:43] On these issues. What do you mean on [03:45] these issues? I mean I'm the one who [03:47] says I want to stop talking about this. [03:49] I can't because things happen in the [03:51] news. [03:51] >> Reza was invited to talk about something [03:53] else. It was August 1st. [03:54] >> Well, Reza's been here a lot. And I'm [03:56] happy that he's been here and I've been [03:57] here and I'm so happy to be invited [03:58] here. However, if you want to have a [04:00] serious conversation about Islam and I'm [04:02] sorry to tell you this Bill [04:03] >> Every time I say something you don't [04:04] like, it's not a serious conversation or [04:06] I'm a bigot. I'm sorry. In your world, [04:08] either I say exactly what you want me to [04:11] say or else I'm a bigot and that just [04:12] doesn't work for you. [04:13] >> If you Look, IF YOU'RE [04:18] YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY WHAT I WANT [04:19] BECAUSE WHAT I want is not a war on [04:21] Islam. I want to win the war on terror. [04:23] We are repeating the same things that [04:25] actually Al-Qaeda said. The same thing. [04:27] You are actually doing the work for [04:28] them. So, here used to say Bin Laden [04:30] used to say [04:31] This is not a war on terror. This is a [04:33] war on Islam. My father was Muslim. He [04:35] was Sufi. You don't even know the [04:36] difference between Sufi, Sunni, Shafi'i, [04:38] Shi'a, Hanbali. You don't. I Well For [04:40] you you're we're all jihadist [04:42] >> many places in the world if you left [04:44] your religion [04:47] what would happen? [04:48] Guess what? Let me tell you something. [04:50] >> be okay. You could walk inside You could [04:51] walk inside a door in Gaza and say, you [04:53] know what? I'm a Presbyterian today. [04:56] >> [laughter] [04:56] >> Maybe not in Gaza to be honest, but you [04:58] can do it in Jordan, you can do it in [05:00] Lebanon. The majority of you are blaming [05:02] the majority for the for the criminal [05:04] acts of a minority. It doesn't [05:07] Unfortunately, the majority are [05:07] disorganized and there's a small [05:09] minority that are well organized and [05:11] they're controlling the narrative. I [05:12] have to move on. Um I'm I'm happy that [05:14] you move on, but I'm telling you there's [05:16] some people that most If YOU WOULD HAVE [05:18] SAID SOME of the things that you would [05:19] have said about African Americans and [05:21] about Jews, you would be fired. But [05:23] African Americans and Jews [05:27] >> [screaming] [05:27] >> don't belong to a religion [05:30] that wanted to kill [05:32] wanted to kill Salman Rushdie for [05:33] writing a book if we want to get back to [05:35] the free speech issue. So, I'm sorry. [05:37] That's called false equivalence. [05:39] >> Okay. When Salman Rushdie wrote [05:41] I have to move on. I'm so sorry, but [05:44] Okay. Now, I guess I hope you can see [05:46] why this is so relevant to what we're [05:48] dealing with today. These charges of [05:50] Islamophobia when you point out problems [05:53] ideas that are in Islam that are [05:55] problematic, that are inconsistent with [05:58] our basic biblically based [06:01] Judeo-Christian Western values, you're [06:04] called an Islamophobe and that's you [06:06] know, look, part of the problem here is [06:08] that the Islamic world [06:12] is [06:13] ne- never condemns terrorism. It never [06:16] condemns the bad guys. We alwa- we [06:19] always have individual Muslims who are [06:21] good people, individual Muslims [06:23] like [06:25] like this woman speaking here, um [06:27] who's who is defending Muslims, but [06:30] she's not defending Islam. You see? [06:33] There are moderate Muslims. That's true. [06:36] There are Muslims like her. She even [06:38] called herself a secular Muslim. [06:40] But that doesn't mean that Islam is [06:43] compatible with Western civilization. [06:45] There are bad people [06:47] in all societies. That's true, but the [06:49] question is is does the ideology condone [06:52] bad behavior? And she also makes the [06:54] case over and over again that things [06:57] that Bill Maher says would be offensive, [06:59] but things that he says is he points out [07:01] ideas that are in Islam and that's what [07:03] he was being attacked for back then in [07:05] 2014. Being offended doesn't make [07:08] something false. [07:10] And when she calls the extremists a [07:12] minority, the Salafist minority, there's [07:14] no indication from looking at the world, [07:17] from looking at the Muslim world, from [07:19] looking at Muslim states and how they [07:20] behave, there is no indication that the [07:24] bad ideas in Islam are only believed and [07:27] acted upon by a minority. [07:30] Uh and [07:31] you know, she's also de- she also denies [07:33] reality over and over again. She denies [07:35] that, you know, that it's a problem [07:37] being gay in the in the in the Muslim [07:39] world, which we know is not true. [07:42] In most Muslim countries, it is [07:44] forbidden by law [07:47] to convert to another religion. It is [07:49] forbidden by law to be of another [07:51] religion in many in many Muslim [07:53] countries. And if you are of another [07:55] religion, you have to accept your status [07:57] as a second-class as a second-class [08:00] citizen. So, this this whole [08:03] these issues and this is all the way [08:05] back This video that we're looking at is [08:07] all the way back from 2014 and now we're [08:09] 12 years later, 11 and 1/2 years later [08:11] really from when this was recorded. [08:14] And [08:15] we're dealing with the exact same issues [08:17] where we have this Muslim world and now [08:20] the Muslim world is taking over Europe, [08:22] is taking over parts of America, is [08:24] people are running for office, Islamists [08:26] are running for office and the core of [08:28] the problem has not really been dealt [08:30] with. And it's not really been [08:31] confronted and spoken about openly under [08:33] the guise of Islamophobia. But it's it [08:36] Islam is not a race. It is a set of [08:38] ideas and it's okay to question the [08:40] ideas and to point out that there are [08:43] violent ideas, there are ideas in there [08:46] that are not compatible with Western [08:48] civilization. As my good friend Charlie [08:49] Kirk used to say, Islam is not [08:51] compatible with Western civilization. [08:53] And the dishonesty of this of this [08:56] speaker, look at the way she's dressed [08:58] and as a secular Muslim in most Muslim [09:00] countries, she would be she would be [09:02] outlawed, she'd be persecuted. And yet [09:05] she's yet she's defending this ideology [09:08] and she's defending it also by not even [09:10] telling [09:11] the truth. If you've been enjoying these [09:13] videos, please make sure to check out [09:16] the Israel 365 YouTube channel where I'm [09:18] putting up content and analysis [09:21] a number of times a week and there's [09:22] great material there. So, be sure to [09:25] check that out. Israel 365 on YouTube.