Transcript [00:00] I was curious as to what makes them [00:01] different. What makes um white supremacy [00:04] different or like Islamophobia so [00:06] different from antise-mitism? [00:07] >> Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, [00:09] freedom of association and so on. If I [00:12] want to kill you and behead you, unless [00:14] you convert to the religion I dictate, [00:17] what would be the place of compromise? [00:19] >> Wow, my mind is blown. I just watched [00:21] this video of Ayan Hersi Ali. You know, [00:24] she she is originally from Somalia, grew [00:27] up Muslim. She then became a Dutch [00:29] member of parliament. She later left [00:31] Islam and she put her finger right on [00:36] the point right on the reason that the [00:40] West has been so has been so inept has [00:44] not been able to push back against [00:46] Islam. It's brilliant, brilliant [00:49] presentation. Go have a look. I have a [00:51] lot to say about it. I would like to [00:53] reiterate the thanks for your time here [00:55] at the University of Austin. Uh what I [00:58] wanted to ask you was um you speak of uh [01:02] Islamophobia and classes like black [01:04] studies as phony um ideological things, [01:08] but uh I was curious as to what makes [01:11] them different. what makes um white [01:12] supremacy different or like Islamophobia [01:16] so different from anti-semitism as there [01:18] you know we did import many African [01:20] slaves that died in the millions and so [01:22] did [01:23] South American countries even more so we [01:25] did force Native Americans on forced [01:28] marches that and genocide you know there [01:30] are Muslims being massacred in China [01:32] today so what makes anti-semitism so [01:35] different [01:37] >> um two things one is [01:41] We have reckoned in America and in [01:44] Western European countries. We've had a [01:46] great reckoning with our past. We've [01:48] addressed the fact that we engaged in [01:50] slavery. We fought a war. We ended it. [01:53] We had segregation. We had another major [01:56] fight. We ended it. We had the civil [01:58] rights movement. We brought women out [02:00] of. And by the way, in fighting for all [02:02] of those emancipations, the people who [02:05] were heading these fights were [02:08] constantly quoting from the Bible. they [02:10] were believing Christians and they were [02:11] inspired um by their Christianity. So [02:14] number one, we had that reckoning. [02:17] Number two, anti-semitism is the oldest [02:20] hatred uh in humanity and you find it, [02:24] believe it or not, across the entire [02:26] world. What made the West different [02:29] after they nearly exterminated their [02:31] Jews was to have that honest look in the [02:35] mirror and reckon with what they did and [02:38] then that those campaigns to end it. [02:41] Islamophobia is a madeup word. It's made [02:45] up by a political movement that wants to [02:49] exploit and capitalize on white guilt to [02:53] achieve its end goal, which is the [02:55] revival of the caliphate. And the [02:57] revival of the caliphate is to convert [03:00] all of us into Islam. Whether we like it [03:02] or not, those of us who refuse to do [03:04] that, we will surely be beheaded. I'm [03:06] sure I'm on top. [03:08] And that is their end goal. And so [03:10] they're exploiting these western part of [03:13] subversion. This is one, this is just a [03:15] guest speech, but I I wish that at some [03:17] point someone here could start a lecture [03:21] series on subversion, on active [03:24] measures, on asymmetric warfare. That [03:27] would get you interested in what it is [03:29] that the Islamists are doing and how [03:31] they've become so successful against [03:34] these great nations with these [03:36] incredible military and economic [03:38] structures. And yet, the Islamists are [03:40] winning. Islam is spreading. They're [03:42] doing better today than they were doing [03:43] in 2001 after they hit us and we invaded [03:46] Afghanistan. They've got Afghanistan [03:48] back. They have Iraq back. They have [03:50] Syria. Um, and these Muslim governments [03:53] are shut. I mean, they're shaking in [03:55] their boots. They're worried about what [03:56] what could happen to them because of the [03:58] Islamist movement. And that's why the [03:59] Islamist movement came here. And they're [04:02] exploiting principles like freedom of [04:05] speech, freedom of religion, freedom of [04:08] association, and so on. And of course [04:11] these progressive movements that we have [04:12] here, we've got to understand that and [04:15] we've got to become really creative in [04:18] finding a way of preserving our [04:20] principles. I don't want to give up on [04:22] the freedom of speech. But on the other [04:24] hand, on beating the Islamists at their [04:27] game, [04:30] >> is there room for compromise between [04:31] principles? [04:38] If I want to kill you and behead you [04:41] unless you convert to the religion I [04:44] dictate what would be the place of [04:46] compromise. [04:49] >> Uh well I would not mind converting as I [04:52] myself am an agnostic so have no faith [04:55] not have no established faith. However I [04:58] understand that some people would not [04:59] see have share that vision. So [05:03] >> um let's play with this thought for a [05:06] while. There's a time and a place for [05:08] everything and for some of the people [05:12] say in places like Africa we don't talk [05:14] about this but Islamists are active in [05:16] Africa and violently so [05:19] um if you're a Christian in Egypt or a [05:23] Hindu in parts of Pakistan and you have [05:26] someone looking at you and saying you'll [05:28] either lose your head or you convert to [05:30] Islam. It makes sense to consider [05:34] converting to Islam. But here today for [05:38] us to have the attitude of well we'll [05:41] see what happens and if it if we get to [05:44] that point I'll just convert [05:47] I will say are you sure maybe you want [05:50] to get educated on what would happen [05:52] once you convert what would your life be [05:55] like and the life of your sisters and [05:58] women what would they do to the Jews he [06:00] has said this man I repeat it he said [06:02] they're bacteria and they're microbes [06:04] and in the video that I showed you, they [06:06] made it very clear. It has nothing to do [06:08] with Palestine. It has everything to do [06:10] with them being Jewish. So, they are [06:12] going to annihilate the Jews. Will you [06:14] stand by and watch that? [06:16] Maybe I should give introduction to [06:19] Islam and Islamism as a lecture series. [06:21] And once you understand what it's all [06:22] about, you might you might develop a [06:25] backbone. [06:27] >> I will look forward to that greatly. [06:29] Thank you very much. [06:30] >> Thank you. [06:32] >> Okay. Theo already started my question, [06:33] but um my question is is inspired by [06:36] what Jesus says in the sermon on the [06:37] mount uh about blessed are the [06:39] peacemakers. So um we see in human [06:44] nature a a desire to scapegoat, right? [06:47] And you're arguing that the Jews are [06:49] being um there there's there's a [06:52] movement or there's there's something [06:53] that is trying to present Jews as the [06:55] scapegoat, right? You talk about two [06:57] important forces. um maybe the the Islam [07:00] nation state which is like a political [07:02] power which is a threat but then also [07:04] this like you you talk about this [07:06] network like uh mosques all over the [07:08] place and these you know communities and [07:10] all you know it's infiltrating America [07:12] and and and the west. So if our if we [07:17] don't want to fall into our natural [07:20] tendency to scapegoat and just become [07:23] ant instead of moving from anti-semitism [07:26] to anti-Islamicism [07:28] and our goal is to be peacemakers [07:31] then how do we do that you but at the [07:35] end of your last question you framed it [07:37] as a uh violent struggle right if it's a [07:42] violent struggle then who is our [07:44] enemies? is and what do we do [07:47] >> right after 911? You were probably not [07:49] born. Uh how old were you on 911? [07:53] >> I was born in 2004. [07:54] >> 2004. So yeah. So before you right after [07:56] 911 2001 when we were having these [08:00] discussions about how to treat this [08:03] enemy that wasn't a state but that was [08:07] determined to destroy us. Um some of the [08:10] discussions were but we can't do this [08:12] because of the constitution. We can't do [08:14] that because of the constitution. We [08:15] can't do this because and a very [08:17] frustrated judge or justice pausner said [08:23] the constitution is not a suicide pact. [08:27] So I don't think there is [08:30] um there's a lot of space between [08:33] committing suicide and doing what the [08:35] young man here said is let let it just [08:37] all happen. And I mean when the time [08:40] comes I guess we will convert or we'll [08:43] deal with it whatever and really looking [08:47] at and studying openly which we haven't [08:51] been able to do because we've been [08:53] self-censoring and I I gave you that [08:56] list of all the different ways in which [08:57] we underestimated the Islamist movement. [09:02] Um, but if we were to estimate it the [09:05] right way, I will say in our history in [09:08] America, it's not the first time that we [09:10] are fighting an ideology that wants to [09:13] destroy us. Communism just the other [09:15] day, not so long ago, most of us lived [09:18] through it. And you called it a cold war [09:21] here, but in Africa and in other parts [09:23] of the world, it wasn't cold. It was [09:24] hot. And it and we starved in all of us. [09:27] So there was there were very good [09:29] reasons for the United States and [09:32] Western countries to fight the ideology [09:35] of communism and they developed a number [09:37] of I'd say tools to recognize it when [09:41] it's applying internal subversive [09:43] methods and when it's coming uh from an [09:46] external position and we can reapply [09:49] those but we do have to we do have to [09:52] identify Islamism and Islamists as the [09:56] enemy that they uh and give them the [09:58] full respect. You ask me to identify and [10:01] you ask me to define what is an enemy. [10:03] It's a force that wants to destroy you. [10:06] How do I know that in these [10:08] infrastructure of um mosques and [10:12] madrasas and Islamic centers etc. they [10:16] say it explicitly. So there is something [10:20] about don't listen to me. Don't listen [10:21] to the analysts with PhDs and the like. [10:24] Listen to them and what they say. and [10:27] take it at their word. [10:29] >> So, does this come down to a uh like [10:32] propaganda war? Like we just inculcate [10:35] our children before they do. Is is that [10:37] where the battle lies? [10:39] >> I think because the war they wage is [10:41] totalitarian and total [10:42] >> but ours well well we have to meet ours [10:45] has to be total too. It has to be where [10:49] they fight us with ideas, we fight them [10:51] with ideas. where they fight us with [10:53] subversive means. We recognize that and [10:55] we dismantle this infrastructure and [10:57] kick them out of the country. We have [10:59] those we have those tools, we have these [11:03] possibilities. We can't just let them [11:05] spread. And this again, we did the same [11:08] to communists. We we watched as [11:11] communists grew and as they were [11:12] subverting our societies and we took the [11:16] appropriate measures against individuals [11:18] against groups and so on but always with [11:21] due process and always within the limits [11:24] of the constitution but we can't again I [11:27] repeat the constitution is not a [11:29] suicidal pact. I want to drill down more [11:32] on what she on her comparison to [11:35] communism because you might be thinking, [11:36] well, Islam's a religion. Communism is [11:38] not a religion. But that's exactly the [11:40] point. You see, because Islam is a [11:43] religion, that puts Westerners [11:47] puts Americans back on their heels [11:49] because it's like, whoa, if I, you know, [11:51] I I can't make rules against Islam. I [11:53] can't tell them what they can and can't [11:55] say. and they have their religious [11:57] institutions and they're raising money [11:58] for this and raising money for that. The [12:00] problem is, and I I'll quote a good [12:03] friend of mine named Dan Buraui, another [12:06] former Muslim. He grew up in Jordan as a [12:08] as a as a Muslim guy. He remembers [12:11] celebrating 911 as a Muslim. And then he [12:14] he he woke up, kind of saw the light, [12:16] left the Muslim world, became a [12:18] Christian, lives in America now, great [12:19] writer, and he he recently said Islam is [12:24] not a religion. It has a religion but it [12:28] is a political movement. And he wasn't [12:29] saying that as an epithet to disparage [12:31] Islam. He was making a very important [12:34] point. He was saying Islam is a belief [12:37] system. It is an ideology. The ideology [12:40] of Islam advocates that Islam take over [12:43] the entire world and implement Sharia [12:45] law and have everyone submit to Islam [12:48] either by converting to Islam or by [12:50] living as a secondass citizen as an [12:52] infidel u as a designated secondass [12:55] citizen adi in Arabic in the Islamic [12:58] world. He says there's also a religion [13:00] that is part of this movement. Now what [13:03] Ian Hersy Ali is pointing out in this [13:05] video and it's so smart is that the fact [13:08] that we view Islam just as a religion [13:11] gives it the cover because we don't want [13:13] to be anti- relligion. We don't want to [13:15] you know there's freedom of religion. [13:17] But communism which openly sought to [13:20] undermine America just like Islam does. [13:23] It openly sought to undermine America [13:26] was never viewed as a religion. So you [13:28] can combat it. What do you mean? These [13:29] are subversive. They they don't believe [13:31] in the constitution. They don't believe [13:32] in American values. They don't believe [13:34] in in the American way of life. They're [13:36] trying to change America into something [13:38] else. Everything I just said is true [13:40] about Islam as well. But because Islam [13:43] is defined as a religion, we don't [13:46] identify Muslims and mosques and the [13:50] Muslim Brotherhood affiliate [13:51] organizations who openly advocate and [13:54] speak about wanting to implement a [13:56] different legal system in America. and [13:59] they run for office and they're doing [14:01] everything they're doing. If you just [14:03] pretend that the Muslims were communists [14:05] or part of some like imagine if the [14:08] Chinese Communist Party suddenly had a [14:10] lot of their activists in America, [14:12] preaching the values of the Chinese [14:14] Communist Party, talking about the [14:15] greatness of the Chinese Communist Party [14:16] and openly saying in their group [14:18] sessions that they want to take over [14:20] America and change America into being [14:23] like the Chinese Communist Party, we'd [14:24] obviously view that as a subversive [14:26] enemy force. Same is true for the west [14:28] of for the rest of the west. I'm only [14:30] bringing up the United States because [14:31] the United States isn't conquered yet [14:33] the way Europe is. But this comparison [14:35] is so valuable because Islam as an [14:39] active program seeks to undermine the [14:41] West. Now again, as I've said in other [14:42] videos, that doesn't mean that all [14:44] Muslims fully buy into this ideology. [14:46] There's plenty of individual Muslims who [14:48] aren't that serious about the program of [14:50] Islam. There are moderate Muslims, but [14:53] there is no moderate Islam. Islam is a [14:56] program. It says exactly what it is and [14:58] there's no Muslim scholar that claims [15:00] that the program of Islam isn't what it [15:02] says it is. So this is such a valuable [15:05] insight from Ayan Hersilei that the the [15:09] West needs to identify its enemy as what [15:12] it is and then be willing to fight back. [15:14] And if that means that you compromise [15:16] certain principles in the in the in the [15:19] constitution as you understand that well [15:20] you know we can't deport people based on [15:22] their religious beliefs really but can [15:25] you deport people if they're part of a [15:26] political movement that is actively [15:28] seeking to to to [15:31] uh undermine the United States of [15:33] America? Well of course you could [15:34] because they'd be enemies. So the [15:36] problem is one of definition. Do you [15:38] define Islam as a religion? If you do [15:41] so, the Muslims then take advantage of [15:44] the principle of freedom of religion, [15:46] which is really a Judeo-Christian [15:49] principle, the freedom of conscience. [15:51] They take advantage of that and make use [15:54] of it as they build out their [15:56] infrastructure. And you'll notice that [15:58] in America now that there's a now that [16:00] there's more Muslims in America than [16:01] there were 10, 20 years ago, they're [16:03] running for office all over the country. [16:06] You don't have people running for office [16:08] because they want to institute Bahigh [16:10] principles or they want to institute [16:12] Hindu principles. But you do have [16:14] Muslims running for office. The reason [16:16] they do that is that this isn't separate [16:18] from their religion. This is Islam. [16:20] Islam seeks to take over. It seeks to [16:23] govern. It is actually a political [16:25] movement that has a religion.
