Transcript [00:00] So the other day, Khavviv Ret Gore, a [00:02] very prominent journalist and public [00:04] intellectual here in Israel, was at [00:05] Havford College in Pennsylvania, and he [00:08] was heckled by some pro Palestinian [00:12] anti-Israel hecklers who were [00:15] challenging Israel's legitimacy in the [00:17] land of Israel, Israel's right, Jews [00:20] right to the land of Israel. And Khabib [00:23] had a response for him, and I've got a [00:24] lot to say about it. So let's have a [00:26] look at that. Oh. Oh, by the way, right [00:28] here on the screen, the Free Press ran a [00:31] piece by Khaviv the other day where he [00:33] talks about the incident if you want to [00:35] read more about it. Why I let [00:36] anti-Israel protesters interrupt my talk [00:39] and uh that's up on the on the free [00:41] press uh website. But here, let's take a [00:44] look at [00:44] >> You're in college. Say it concisely. [00:47] >> When you move somewhere of refuge, you [00:49] don't have the right of [00:49] self-determination [00:50] >> unless you have no other choice, cuz [00:52] otherwise you're dead. If you sit down [00:53] for the next hour and listen to me, you [00:55] will know what I mean. You don't know [00:56] anything about my history. And if you [00:58] did, you would know. You don't know what [00:59] I'm talking about. You literally don't [01:01] know the story. What? [01:02] >> So disrespectful. [01:03] >> You just don't know. You just literally [01:04] don't know. [01:05] >> Israel has no sovereignty over that land [01:07] because they're they're not indigenous. [01:09] >> I don't know what those words mean. [01:10] Somebody taught you a word salad. [01:12] MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE REFUGEES WITH NO [01:14] OTHER NO. NO. I'm talking to you. HEY. [01:17] HEY. HEY. I'M EXCUSE ME. I'M HURTING [01:20] THEM TO RESPECT YOU. Millions of people [01:23] with no other choice survived only [01:25] because of that place. We're going to [01:27] talk about DPS today. And that I promise [01:29] you will shut you up for 10 minutes [01:30] because I seriously think there's a [01:31] moral core inside you. Millions of [01:33] people with literally no other choice. [01:35] Not after touring Avitz did a single [01:38] nation on this earth take them in. And [01:40] they knew one thing and one thing only, [01:41] which is that they don't have that piece [01:42] of land, if they don't have that place [01:44] under the sun to stand [01:45] shoulder-to-shoulder with other Jews and [01:47] defend themselves. A million and a half [01:48] Jews fought in World War II. But not one [01:50] of them was high enough in any ranking [01:52] army to bomb the railroads to Ashvitz. [01:54] Jews could not defend themselves. And [01:56] then one day, Jews could. And that's the [01:58] moment Jews stopped dying. And if you [01:59] think you can take the Jewish state from [02:01] the Jews now, literally because you [02:04] don't know any of this, you don't know [02:06] what Israelis see when they look out at [02:08] the world. I'm going to tell you a dark [02:10] secret about how to defeat Israel. Are [02:12] you guys taking notes? [laughter] [02:14] >> Here's how you defeat Israel. When [02:16] Israeli intelligence officers want to [02:18] prepare for the next war against an [02:20] enemy country, one of the deepest tricks [02:22] is to fall madly in love with that [02:24] culture, learn its history, they watch [02:26] Persian movie nights. First of all, [02:27] because Iranian movies are amazing, but [02:30] also because to know Iran deeply is to [02:32] be able to fight it, and they actually [02:33] respect Iran. And they actually are [02:35] capable then of cleaning up when the war [02:37] comes. Actually learn us because I'll [02:40] tell you a secret. Kamas has told us [02:42] since October 7, the last TWO YEARS WITH [02:44] ALL THE SUFFERING IN GAZA, Kamas has [02:46] never not told Israelis, and this makes [02:48] the Israeli prime time news, even if it [02:50] doesn't make your TikTok feed, that [02:52] they're going to do it again and forever [02:54] until every last one of us, not every [02:55] last one of us is decolonized into a [02:57] civic democracy until every last one of [02:59] us is dead. You are telling Israelis, [03:01] dismantle your self-determination and [03:03] your self-defense in the name of peace [03:05] and justice. And Kamas is telling [03:07] Israelis, I will murder you the second [03:09] you do that. And you don't understand [03:11] because you don't know Israelis because [03:13] you refuse to learn Israelis because [03:14] you've been taught that to learn the [03:16] other side is immoral by bad professors. [03:18] You don't understand that you and Kamas [03:21] are having a debate inside the Israeli [03:23] psyche and kamas is winning. You [03:25] actually think you're debating me. And [03:26] now I really am done with you because [03:28] you don't know enough to hold these [03:29] people's time any longer. Go and learn. [03:35] >> All right. So, [03:38] first off, let me just say I'm not a [03:39] huge fan of the Holocaust argument, the [03:43] Holocaust justification for the state of [03:45] Israel. But I don't think that was [03:46] Khiv's main point. I think I don't know [03:50] if he was intending to make it exactly [03:52] this way, but here's here's the point. [03:58] Anti-Israel [04:01] protesters or anti- people who are [04:03] anti-Israel, the kind who believe that [04:05] Israel [04:07] excuse me, the kind who believe that [04:08] Israel is not legitimate and doesn't [04:09] have a right to exist, that Jews don't [04:11] have a right to be there, [04:13] tend to have a very short view of [04:16] history. In fact, I'll say it this way. [04:19] I believe that the shorter the time [04:22] frame of history that you view as [04:24] relevant to the present, the more [04:27] anti-Israel you will be. The longer your [04:30] view of history that you view as [04:32] relevant to the present, the more [04:34] pro-Israel you will be. So if you start [04:35] history in 1967, [04:37] you'll be you'll have one attitude about [04:39] Israel. If you start history in 1948 or [04:43] in 1848 or at the destruction of the [04:47] temple in Jerusalem by the Romans or at [04:50] or at Mount Si, however far back you go, [04:52] the further back you go, the more [04:54] pro-Israel you will be. So in the [04:56] interest of this uh of uh making this [05:00] point I would like to give you a short [05:03] history lesson about Israel and [05:06] especially responding to that heckler [05:08] the second time he interrupted him and [05:10] he was saying that Israel doesn't have a [05:11] right to sovereignty in the land of [05:13] Israel he also said you're not [05:14] indigenous. Now indigenous means [05:17] that you're the native people in the [05:20] land and he's saying that the Jews are [05:22] not indigenous. So apparently this guy I [05:24] thinks that the Arabs there are are [05:27] indigenous even though the Arabs did not [05:29] make it to this part of the world to [05:31] Israel to the Levant until the 7th [05:33] century. Anyway, let's take a look at a [05:36] at a brief a brief history of this. [05:38] Okay, so I'm going to go all the way [05:40] back to 1300 BC. Okay, the beginning of [05:45] the Jews. Okay. The from 1300 BC till [05:48] 135 CE, the people of Israel who were [05:52] later known as Judeans or Jews lived on [05:55] and off in the land of Israel with [05:58] independent sovereignty again on and off [06:00] throughout that period in between [06:02] invasions by foreign powers. And in the [06:05] second century, the Romans crushed the [06:08] last attempt at independent revolt by [06:10] the Jews and they conquered Jerusalem [06:12] and Judea. And then the Romans renamed [06:16] Judea Palestina. They invoked the name [06:19] of the biblical enemy of Israel, the [06:21] Philistines, who were already extinct by [06:23] then. And their goal was to minimize [06:26] Jewish identification with the land of [06:28] Israel. [06:31] Excuse me. [06:33] Now, following the Arab Muslim conquest [06:36] of Judea in the 7th century, the name [06:38] Palestine [06:40] fell into disuse. Okay, so I jumped [06:42] ahead to the seventh century. The Arab [06:43] Muslims come in, they they conquer it. [06:45] No one uses the word Palestine anymore. [06:47] It was a Roman word. To illustrate the [06:49] point, the word Palestine does not [06:51] appear even once in the Quran, even [06:53] though there's a lot of discussion of [06:54] area of locations around here. The word [06:57] only came back into use by Christian [06:59] crusaders in the 11th century. Moving [07:03] ahead in time, under the Ottoman Empire, [07:06] that's the Muslim Empire coming out of [07:08] Turkey. Under the Ottoman Empire, which [07:10] ruled most of what we know today as the [07:12] Middle East for 400 years, the term [07:15] Palestine was only used by European [07:18] Christians, travelers, and others who [07:21] would dis use the word Palestine to [07:23] describe whatever was south of Syria, [07:26] including what's today Jordan as well as [07:28] Israel. It was a name of a region. There [07:31] was no borders. Okay, here. Let's take a [07:33] look. Here's the Ottoman Empire. [07:36] Let's pull this up on the screen [07:40] here. Let's do this. [07:44] We'll take him down. [07:48] Here [laughter] we go. Here we [07:50] [clears throat] go. The green you see on [07:51] the screen is the Ottoman Empire. Okay. [07:54] Now, the the the cream color area here, [07:59] that's just kind of no man's land. Okay, [08:00] it's all kind of desert open area. [08:03] There's no borders here. There's no [08:04] separate countries. But this is also [08:06] only the Ottoman Empire right near the [08:08] end in 1914. In earlier parts of their [08:11] 400year rule, they covered a lot more of [08:13] this area. [08:15] But all the countries we know of in the [08:17] Middle East today, right, Syria, Iraq, [08:20] Jordan, Lebanon, all these countries [08:22] with these borders in between them and [08:24] these lines, you can even see the lines [08:25] look like they're drawn on a piece of [08:26] paper. They're not natural borders with [08:28] these angles. All of these countries [08:31] that you see here that we know today as [08:32] the Middle East did not exist. They were [08:35] just this was just a territory. People [08:37] migrated freely across it. There were no [08:40] real borders in between. [08:44] [clears throat] Yeah. And during that [08:45] time um the Arab population didn't use [08:49] the term Palestine. They just called [08:51] everything Syria. So whatever is Israel [08:53] or Jordan today was just southern Syria. [08:55] So again, the Ottomans ruled over the [08:57] Middle East from 1517 to 1917. [09:00] During none of this time or at any time [09:02] prior was there a nation or a state [09:05] called Palestine. There was simply no [09:07] group of people that referred to [09:08] themselves this way. So if you hear [09:10] someone talk about the Palestinian [09:12] people, just ask them this question. Ask [09:15] them to name a single ruler or leader of [09:18] the Palestinian people from any point in [09:20] history prior to the 20th century, prior [09:22] to Yaser Arafat. [09:24] >> Okay? or Hajamin Aluseni. [09:27] Don't prior to the 20th century. But [09:29] don't sit around waiting for an answer. [09:30] They probably aren't going to have one. [09:31] Now, there are countless artifacts and [09:34] records that show extensive Jewish [09:36] history in the land of Israel. There's [09:37] not a single archaeological find that [09:39] supports the existence of a Palestinian [09:42] nation or a Palestinian state. Before [09:45] Jewish development began in the late [09:47] 19th century, the land was very empty, [09:50] sparsely populated. We know this from [09:52] traveler records and official government [09:53] documents. In 1864, for example, the [09:56] British consulate reported that [09:58] Jerusalem's population was only about [10:01] 15,000 people, more than half of which [10:04] was Jewish. That's according to the [10:05] British consulate in Jerusalem in the [10:08] 1840s. The the rest of it was split [10:10] evenly between Muslims and Christians. [10:14] Look, the truth is that most of the [10:15] Arabs who call themselves Palestinians [10:17] today don't even have long-term roots in [10:20] the land that they claim. During the [10:22] 28-year period of the 27-year period of [10:25] the British mandate, from 1920 to 1947, [10:28] more than a 100,000 Arabs immigrated [10:31] from neighboring countries into Israel. [10:33] Many of their descendants are today [10:35] people that we call Palestinians, but [10:37] they they weren't there very long. [10:40] in in February 1919. [10:44] Okay, so it's right after the first [10:45] world war and there's going to be the [10:48] Paris Peace Accords where they're going [10:50] to divide up the Ottoman Empire. Okay, [10:55] the Turks have been defeated, the the [10:57] French, the British, the Americans, [10:59] they're going to get together, the [11:00] Russians, they're going to have this [11:01] Paris peace conference and they're going [11:03] to decide what to do with the Ottoman [11:05] Empire. and the Arab Muslim Christian [11:08] Association [11:10] met in Jerusalem to choose a [11:12] representative to go represent the Arabs [11:14] of the region at the Paris Peace Peace [11:18] Conference. Okay? And they adopted the [11:21] following resolution that they came to [11:23] the Paris Peace Conference as the [11:24] official position of the Arabs of what [11:28] we call Israel or Palestine or Israel [11:31] and Jordan. Okay? And here was their [11:33] statement. quote, "We consider Palestine [11:36] as part of Arab Syria as it has never [11:40] been separated from it at any time. We [11:43] are connected with Syria by national, [11:46] religious linguistic natural [11:48] economic, and geographical bonds." They [11:50] were basically saying, "We're Syrians. [11:52] There's no such thing as a Palestine." [11:54] Again, because the word Palestine was a [11:57] western Christian word, they rejected [12:00] it. Now, out of the Paris Peace Accords [12:03] came something called the King Crane [12:05] Commission, led by the Americans, and [12:07] their task was to investigate the [12:10] situation in the formerly Ottoman [12:13] controlled territories, the green [12:15] territories you see on the map. Okay, [12:17] that was that was their job. They were [12:19] supposed to meet with the people in the [12:21] different areas and come back with a [12:23] report. And in the King Crane [12:25] Commission, it says in their report from [12:27] the time that the Christian and Muslim [12:29] Arabs [12:31] opposed any plan to create a country [12:34] called Palestine [12:36] because it was viewed as a recognition [12:38] of Zionist claims because that term came [12:41] from the British who were pro-Zionist. [12:44] So after these conferences and [12:46] commissions, [12:48] right, that's the 1919 Paris Peace [12:50] Accords. And then we jump ahead in 1922. [12:53] The League of Nations takes u the piece [12:58] of the Ottoman Empire [13:00] called Palestine, which was Jordan and [13:03] Israel. What's Jordan and Israel today, [13:05] and they give it to Great Britain, and [13:06] they give it to the Englands to govern [13:09] with the task of creating a Jewish [13:12] homeland in Palestine or in a part of [13:15] Palestine. Okay, they were meaning the [13:18] British were were tasked by the League [13:20] of Nations to create that [13:23] and they then decided that everything to [13:27] the east of the Jordan River would [13:29] become an Arab state that was [13:31] threequarters of the of the Palestine [13:33] mandate and what's to the left of the [13:37] river [13:39] [clears throat] would be decided at a [13:40] later date. So that's what created the [13:43] kingdom of what was then called Trans [13:46] Jordan, meaning the other side of the [13:47] Jordan. Okay, which then later was [13:50] renamed to be called simply Jordan. [13:54] Okay, so that's what was basically [13:58] Palestinians. Okay, most of those [14:00] inhabitants were people were Arabs from [14:02] the who had been living in the areas [14:04] that were called Palestine by the [14:06] British. And therefore this was the [14:09] partition of mandatory Palestine into [14:12] two states. A Palestinian Arab state and [14:16] a Palestinian Jewish state. But the [14:19] Jewish state wasn't formed yet. It was [14:20] going to be redivided again later. It [14:22] should be noted this is important most [14:25] of the Arab countries and the national [14:27] identities in this region as I said they [14:31] never existed before before the 20th [14:33] century. When we talk about Jordanians [14:36] or Syrians or Iraqis, [14:40] look what I showed you here. And none of [14:42] those countries exist. They had never [14:43] existed before. These are not real [14:46] nationalities. These are just names of [14:48] regions of the chopped up Ottoman [14:52] Empire. And therefore, these new [14:54] countries took on those names. [14:57] >> [cough] [14:58] [clears throat] [14:59] >> borders between different areas were [15:00] non-existent until the until until after [15:03] these these western diplomats came in [15:05] after World War I. Okay, so to [15:08] illustrate this point, in 1937, so now [15:11] I'm jumping a little bit ahead. 1937, a [15:14] local Arab leader in Israel in it wasn't [15:18] Israel yet in Palestine, excuse me, hold [15:21] on. [15:24] A [clears throat] local Arab leader, a [15:26] guy by the name of Anibbe Abdul Hadi, [15:29] told the British Peel Commission, quote, [15:32] "There is no such country as Palestine. [15:35] Palestine is a term the Zionists [15:37] invented." And he means British people, [15:39] by the way, not just Jews. There's no [15:41] Palestine in the Bible. Our country was [15:44] for centuries part of Syria. [15:48] Okay? Or there was a Princeton [15:49] University professor Philip Hiti who was [15:51] testifying after World War II to the [15:54] Anglo-American Committee 1946 [15:57] and he said quote there is no such thing [15:59] as Palestine in history. Absolutely not. [16:03] Okay. To in the UN General Assembly in [16:05] 1947 the representative of the Arabs of [16:09] the Arab Higher Committee. It [16:10] represented the Arabs of Palestine in [16:12] the United Nations. [16:14] Okay. [16:16] And he was and he told them that [16:20] Palestine was part of Syria and that the [16:22] Arabs of Palestine are not a separate [16:24] political entity. You know, they were [16:26] basically saying we're part of Syria. [16:28] There's no such thing as Palestines. [16:29] They thought that accepting the term [16:30] Palestine was accepting the Western [16:33] definition of these territories. Bottom [16:35] line is this. There's no such thing as a [16:37] Palestinian people. There was never such [16:39] a nation. The the whole thing is a hoax. [16:42] When did they start using the term? And [16:43] then after the state of Israel was [16:45] declared, [16:46] they then made a basically a propaganda [16:49] decision to create a new identity called [16:52] Palestinian as a way of [16:55] rejecting the Jewish state and trying to [16:58] destroy the Jewish state. And that's why [17:01] between 1948 and 1967 [17:04] when what is today [17:08] known as the West Bank, Judea and [17:10] Samaria was in the hands of the [17:12] Jordanians and Gaza was in the hands of [17:15] the Egyptians. No one was calling for a [17:17] Palestinian state. No one actually cares [17:20] about a Palestinian state. They just [17:21] want to destroy Israel. So after 1967 is [17:24] when they started really ramping up the [17:26] whole idea of Palestine as a way to have [17:31] Arabs lay claim to the land of Israel. [17:34] So there is my illustration of the point [17:38] that the more history you know the more [17:42] you realize that the Jews have a right [17:44] to the land of Israel and there's no [17:46] such thing as a Palestinian people. If [17:47] you start history 10 minutes ago, then [17:50] there's the Palestinians who've been [17:51] dispossessed from their land by these, [17:54] you know, colonialist Jews who came in [17:55] after World War II. So, you know, this [17:59] is this is the truth of the situation, [18:01] folks. And uh again, I'm not a like I [18:03] said, I'm not a huge fan of the of the [18:06] Holocaust argument, but I think the [18:07] larger argument is that we need to know [18:09] our history. And knowing history, [18:13] knowing the truth, [18:15] ultimately leads us to the awareness [18:18] that the Jewish people have every right [18:20] to the land of Israel. Please drop a [18:22] comment below. Let me know what you [18:23] thought of this video. 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