Transcript [00:00] So, we've spent a lot of time over the [00:02] last [00:03] number of months [00:06] uh talking about people like Tucker [00:08] Carlson and Megan Kelly. There's a lot [00:10] of conversation about them [00:12] about their strident positions against [00:15] Israel. Now, they've gone after uh [00:16] President Trump. He's gone after them. [00:19] And I want to play you a clip of Victor [00:21] Davis Hanson [00:23] uh just from just a few days ago talking [00:25] about this phenomenon. [00:27] Uh he was being interviewed and he was [00:29] asked about that whole wing of American [00:32] politics. And [00:35] he laid down his theory of the case. Uh [00:37] I don't necessarily agree with [00:39] everything he said. So, I want to play [00:40] his thoughts and then I want to share [00:42] with you what I have to say about this. [00:45] Here we go. Here's Victor Davis Hanson. [00:47] United States where Candace Owens, Steve [00:51] Bannon Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Megan [00:56] Kelly [00:57] and I'm not going to lump them all [00:59] together because they have different [01:00] views and intensities, but they were [01:03] very strong Trump supporters. And they [01:06] feel that they're very influential even [01:08] though the polls don't reflect that [01:10] because the MAGA base is 85% [01:13] in favor of the war. Republicans in [01:15] general are about 85 as well. [01:17] But they feel they're very important and [01:19] now they're come the the the less Trump [01:22] talks to them and the let the less the [01:24] more access that's denied to the white [01:26] They have no no connection now with [01:28] Trump. [01:31] He's cut them all off and they want to [01:33] react. So, here in the United States [01:35] we're getting almost daily [01:37] from those people who have a large [01:40] audience that [01:41] Netanyahu runs everything [01:44] and we were [01:47] hoodwinked. [01:48] We got to get out. What's Trump's [01:51] worthless. He'd lied to MAGA. This was a [01:54] forever war, endless war. [01:56] >> Victor, I want to ask you about that [01:57] wing of MAGA. So, one of the things that [02:00] yesterday for example Megan Kelly went [02:02] on Piers Morgan show and said exactly [02:04] what you said. She said that that [02:06] Netanyahu [02:08] lied to Trump and Trump basically in I [02:12] think that's what she's implying. He's a [02:14] buffoon that some guy from Israel can [02:16] come and sell him some fantasy and he [02:20] falls for it, does this war, and goes [02:22] totally bad. In in and that's [02:26] objectively not true, but whatever. [02:28] And so why do you think Is it really [02:32] that they believe these kinds of stuff [02:34] or is it what the base a lot of their [02:36] listeners want to hear? Because [02:38] objectively it just doesn't seem smart. [02:40] If you really love President Trump and [02:42] you believe he's good policy and that [02:44] he's bucking the system that they don't [02:46] like on on all the issues you just [02:48] mentioned, why on this specific issue do [02:52] they think that he's so gullible that [02:54] some guy from Israel can just come and [02:57] sell him a load of goods and he just [02:58] believes it in this one specific narrow [03:02] thing? [03:03] Yes. I think the answer to that is to [03:07] look back at the [03:09] the American bombing in the summer of [03:11] 2025. Because she was all I was on her [03:14] show. She was all for it. [03:16] She said that Trump [03:17] had the [03:19] She used the vernacular testicles to do [03:21] this and no one else would do it. [03:24] And she was very [03:26] uh [03:27] very supportive of Israel. [03:29] And if I go back, I was on her show [03:31] right after October 7th. [03:33] And she was very supportive of Israel [03:36] and very critical of the Palestinians. [03:38] And Tucker [03:41] uh [03:41] was not so much so, but he wasn't as [03:44] critical of Israel and Trump as he is [03:47] now. Candace Owens had already gone off [03:50] the deep end. [03:51] Steve Bannon, so what changed and what [03:54] changed was not the actual realities [03:58] but world opinion uh and the propaganda [04:01] of all the rubble in Gaza and in Beirut [04:04] and none of the reasons of the causation [04:07] for it and the mood on the campuses in [04:10] the United States [04:11] and the Democratic radicalism with [04:13] Mondami uh and then we've got all of [04:15] these socialist governors coming in [04:18] and the Democratic Party changed and it [04:20] became cool or it became the status quo [04:23] for the left and the center [04:25] to try to excuse [04:28] the United States. Uh not that they [04:30] didn't criticize Trump. They said he's a [04:32] fool and he's stupid. [04:35] But [04:36] he was uh hoodwinked by this Jewish guy [04:39] who's [04:40] clever and diabolical. But [04:44] it it it didn't really appeal to the [04:47] other half of the nation because I mean [04:49] you're going to make an empirical [04:50] argument. [04:52] His family and he has put far more [04:55] concentration on the Gulf monarchies, [04:57] American investments [04:59] and the Gulf monarchers were really [05:02] as you know well, they were saying [05:04] before the war don't go in. Don't go in. [05:07] And then privately they were saying go [05:09] in and get rid of it. We're scared. And [05:11] then when we did go in they said don't [05:14] negotiate. You've got to get rid of [05:16] them. [05:17] And then [05:19] and then they have about the six [05:23] Arab countries in the Gulf. I'm not [05:25] saying their pilots are up to Western [05:27] standards, but they have 600 combat [05:29] aircraft. Mhm. [05:31] They have double the number of Israel [05:32] all of those countries together. And yet [05:35] they didn't send anybody. They didn't [05:37] send in at least in size. So, here you [05:40] have this strange situation where if [05:43] Donald Trump is really gullible and [05:45] foolish, he should The argument would be [05:47] the continuation of that argument is [05:49] these clever Arabs with all this oil [05:51] money and people in his family are [05:52] investing and there's all these funds [05:55] and these uh deals that are being made [05:58] and yet they don't want to help. [06:01] So, [06:01] Trump got hoodwinked. He did he took out [06:04] a round for them and then [06:07] they didn't send any help. At least [06:09] Israel you could say, well, he got [06:11] hoodwinked by Israel, but they sent 300 [06:14] planes over there. And they did a lot of [06:17] the damage if [06:18] if not most of the damage to the [06:20] commanding control and the intelligence. [06:22] So, [06:23] it it's it's not based on empiricism. [06:26] It's just a frustration that [06:30] a lot of the people in the inner on the [06:31] influencer side, they look at clicks and [06:33] they say where is where is public [06:36] opinion now and how do I get a week [06:38] ahead of it. And I think that the Gaza [06:41] thing has turned people because of the [06:43] Hamas propaganda and the more damage [06:46] Israel does to Beirut and this war [06:48] didn't end in a week. It's not like the [06:50] bombing last summer [06:52] four or five weeks and people are [06:54] getting restless and I've got to get [06:57] ahead of where people are and be [06:59] outraged. And I'm And they are and [07:01] they're getting a lot of Can you if I [07:02] ask you just in general, can you Is [07:04] there any difference at this point [07:05] [clears throat] [07:06] of between the Tucker wing I guess what [07:09] you would call the right and the Mondami [07:11] wing of the left on foreign policy? I [07:13] cannot discern any real difference on [07:16] foreign policy. [07:18] On foreign policy. Well, if you take [07:20] Tucker, [07:21] he despises Israel. Mondami despises [07:24] Israel. They [07:27] uh feel that Islamic civilization [07:31] the West is in decline and I mean Tucker [07:33] said that he thought that Western cities [07:35] were not as successful as Islamic [07:37] cities. He's As somebody who's been in [07:40] Damascus and old Cairo and Tripoli and [07:44] Algiers, I can tell you that that's even [07:46] at our nadir here in the United States, [07:48] that's not true. There's been a big [07:50] shift in the United [07:51] Sorry. [07:53] Okay. So, that was Victor Davis Hanson. [07:55] And he gave his theory uh about these [07:59] people wanting clicks and uh and he gave [08:01] some other reasoning in there. [08:03] He also mentioned I thought the the most [08:05] interesting argument that he made was [08:07] that these were all people the people he [08:09] mentioned Tucker and Candace and he [08:11] mentioned Steve Bannon as well. [08:14] Um and some of the others, Megan Kelly [08:17] that they were big supporters of Trump [08:19] and now Trump has kind of shut them out [08:21] of things. [08:23] And I want to drill down on that for a [08:24] little bit. [08:26] Cuz I think there's there's uh there's [08:27] an important point there. [08:30] Uh before I do this, just uh let me [08:32] remind you to please subscribe and share [08:34] and let people know what's going on in [08:35] this channel. And also please make sure [08:37] to go over to Israel 365 News, Israel [08:40] 365 News YouTube channel. You'll see it [08:42] linked in the description of this video. [08:44] Make sure to go there and get all the [08:45] content that we're putting up at Israel [08:47] 365 News. We do a lot of interviews, a [08:49] lot of other analytical pieces. [08:51] Um and uh we put up some very important [08:54] videos in recent days. Especially there [08:56] was a video that I did just last week [08:57] about Egypt. It's been off the radar. No [08:59] one's paying attention to Egypt, but [09:01] there's a lot going on there and we need [09:03] to be very much aware of what's [09:05] happening with Egypt. Uh so please uh go [09:07] over to Israel 365 News YouTube channel [09:10] and make sure that you get all my [09:11] content there. [09:12] Um [09:13] Yeah, so this topic of the of the um [09:16] we can call it the more isolationist [09:18] wing, those who who believe that Trump [09:21] was hoodwinked and duped and dragged [09:23] into this war. This is Israel's war. [09:25] It's not an American interest. [09:27] Um [09:29] So, I mentioned that uh Victor Davis [09:30] Hanson says that uh one of the [09:33] one of the uh [09:34] uh causes of their their rage because it [09:38] really is a rage. There's like I view it [09:40] as a kind of temper tantrum that's going [09:41] on there. [09:43] Uh is that uh he's he feels that Trump [09:46] has shut them out. [09:49] So, I want to talk about Steve Bannon. [09:51] Steve Bannon and I have uh had a [09:53] relationship for a number of years. [09:55] Uh many of you are probably aware that [09:57] I've been a regular guest on his show [09:58] for quite some time. [10:00] And uh [10:02] And that's uh [10:04] And that's something that I take very [10:05] seriously. I mean, Steve has some views [10:08] that [10:09] are certainly I certainly disagree with. [10:10] We disagree on some fundamental things [10:12] and I and I think a lot of what he says [10:15] um [10:16] a lot of the things he says about the [10:17] Middle East and Israel certainly are [10:19] problematic in my view. [10:21] And there's been a lot of people who've [10:22] said to me that I should stop [10:23] associating with him. I should stop stop [10:25] appearing on his show, but that's not [10:27] something that I'm going to do. Um [10:29] I um [10:31] I mean, first of all, there's a lot of [10:32] positions that he takes on other issues [10:34] that I'm very fond of. [10:36] I'll just say that right out. Um and I [10:38] understand all of the [10:40] uh all that's said about him and all the [10:42] things that are out there about uh [10:44] misdeeds. But to me, the calculation is [10:47] very simple. [10:49] Uh he has a very large audience, a very [10:50] important audience. [10:52] And if I'm not on there [10:56] uh [10:56] pleading the case of our side, I'm not [10:59] sure there any there is anyone else [11:00] who's there. [11:02] So, um and that's why I and that's why I [11:04] do it. And and I value that audience. I [11:07] value the other people there. I don't [11:09] agree with them on everything. [11:10] Uh I think one of the [11:12] um You know, just do a little analysis [11:15] on myself. You know, I've spent many, [11:17] many years doing Jewish-Christian [11:18] relations, involved in a lot of [11:20] interesting situations that have also [11:21] brought me some criticism from certain [11:23] quarters of the Jewish community who [11:24] aren't so comfortable [11:26] with the lines that I cross, [11:28] the way they see it, in Jewish-Christian [11:30] relations. I I've always felt very [11:32] comfortable having relationships with [11:34] people that I disagree with. [11:36] And it doesn't change the fact that I [11:37] haven't that I have a friendly [11:39] relationship with them. And I have a [11:40] friendly relationship with Steve with [11:41] all of the, you know, I my eyes are wide [11:43] open. [11:44] Um [11:45] he's a complicated person. [11:47] But I want to talk about this issue cuz [11:48] Victor uh about Trump shutting these [11:51] people out and that maybe fueling a lot [11:56] of their negativity about the policy [11:57] positions he's taken about Israel and [11:59] Iran. [12:00] And I want to bring you back [12:02] to the war in June, the 12-day war. [12:06] And I'm going to tell you a story. [12:09] Um [12:11] And the story has to do with Steve. [12:14] And [12:16] in the middle of that war, you'll [12:18] probably remember this. [12:20] In the middle of that war [12:23] Here we go. Is this uh [12:25] What do I want? I've got to get the [12:26] right I'm going to pull up a [12:29] Here it is. Okay. [12:32] In the middle of that war, uh [12:34] you know, for the first [12:36] uh week of that war [12:39] the big question was is the United [12:41] States going to get involved militarily? [12:43] Is the United States going to attack [12:45] Fordow and Natanz, these underground [12:47] facilities? [12:48] And that it was during that time, so [12:52] just to recap, Israel attacks Israel [12:54] starts the 12-day war on June 13th. [12:58] Okay? [13:00] Thursday night, Friday morning. [13:02] That's when Israel starts the war. [13:05] The attacks by the B-2 bombers on the [13:07] nuclear facilities happened the [13:08] following Saturday, just over a week [13:11] later. [13:12] During that whole week, there was a [13:14] fierce [13:15] battle going on within the MAGA [13:18] movement, within the movement of Trump [13:20] supporters [13:21] over whether or not Trump [13:24] whether or not the United States should [13:25] get involved. [13:28] And all these podcasters that [13:30] um [13:31] that Victor Davis Hanson mentioned were [13:33] advocating against American involvement, [13:36] including Charlie Kirk, by the way. [13:39] Charlie Kirk's attitude about this was, [13:41] "I don't want this to happen. I don't [13:43] want Trump to I don't want the US to be [13:45] involved. I don't want the US to [13:46] attack." He went to Washington, D.C. to [13:48] push President Trump not to attack. [13:51] But publicly, Charlie's attitude was [13:58] "Even though I don't like this, if [13:59] President Trump decides to do it, we [14:00] trust President Trump and he's earned [14:02] our trust." And then when America did [14:05] attack and all of the [14:08] um all of the fears that were raised [14:10] about what would happen if America [14:12] attacked, that it would uh it would [14:14] escalate into a much larger war and it [14:16] would drag in Russia and China and there [14:17] would be all these other problems that [14:19] they had [14:20] that they had talked about happening [14:23] they didn't when they didn't materialize [14:25] uh and there were no American casualties [14:27] and [14:29] and the deed was done [14:31] Charlie was, you know, his attitude was, [14:33] "Okay, I didn't like it, but look at [14:35] that. It worked out, thank God." And he [14:37] came out kind of smelling like a rose. [14:39] He was trying to thread the needle and [14:41] give an option for people who were [14:43] opposed to the attacks [14:46] and those who were in favor of them to [14:48] still remain as part of one movement. [14:50] So, trusting Trump was something that [14:52] everyone could get around. [14:54] Could get everyone could get behind. [14:56] And during that time, I was texting as I [14:59] I text regularly with Steve. [15:02] Um and I was trying to push him to go [15:04] with that messaging and he was not [15:06] having any of it. He was very much [15:07] opposed to American involvement in any [15:09] way. He didn't have me on the show [15:11] during that week. [15:13] And he was having on only voices really [15:15] who were opposed to American [15:17] involvement. People he had Tucker [15:18] Carlson on War Room, which is in my [15:20] memory of Steve's show over the years. I [15:23] think it might be the only time Tucker [15:24] Carlson ever appeared on War Room. Maybe [15:26] he's appeared one other time, I don't [15:27] know. But it was very rare for Tucker [15:29] Carlson to appear on War Room. [15:31] And they were talking about that. Uh and [15:33] he had Kurt Mills from the American [15:34] Conservative who's very opposed to this [15:36] war and very opposed to American [15:38] involvement. He's very opposed to [15:39] Israel, really. He's opposed to the [15:40] US-Israel alliance. He had him on a lot [15:42] that week and he was really pushing this [15:45] this angle that America needs to stay [15:47] out of this. America [15:48] should not be involved. [15:51] Uh he wasn't full-on anti-Israel at this [15:53] point. [15:54] Um a lot of the more problematic things [15:56] he has said about Israel in the last few [15:58] months were came after this and that's [16:01] part of the story as I see it. [16:04] Steve as was consistently from October [16:07] 7th really until then, he was [16:08] consistently extremely pro-Israel. [16:10] That's something that a lot of people [16:11] don't realize. A lot of Israel [16:12] supporters who know him as one of the [16:14] problematic people [16:16] um [16:17] the pro part of the problem with our [16:18] side is that we tend to notice when [16:20] people say bad things about us. [16:22] Um and and and those those are the [16:25] statements people make about us that [16:26] we're aware of. So, most most people in [16:28] the pro-Israel side are not even aware [16:30] of the fact that again, from October 7th [16:32] all the way through till the 12-day war, [16:34] Steve Bannon was if anything criticized [16:37] within the MAGA movement for being too [16:38] pro-Israel. He was extremely pro-Israel. [16:41] But he was wavering during this during [16:43] this war. He he very much felt that that [16:46] um [16:47] that Prime Minister Netanyahu was not [16:49] entirely honest and that this was not in [16:51] American interest. Okay, the debate over [16:53] whether it's an American interest or not [16:55] is that's a that's a that's a debate [16:57] that we can have. Reasonable people [16:58] reasonable people can disagree. [17:01] Uh and um [17:03] you know, and he was very much on the [17:04] side of this is not an American interest [17:06] and that his attitude was he was not an [17:08] Iran apologist and he's still not an [17:10] Iran apologist. His attitude was that [17:14] uh [17:15] there's better ways to bring down the [17:16] regime that do not involve military [17:19] activity. He also was buying into a lot [17:22] of the fear-mongering coming from people [17:24] like Tucker and Kurt Mills who were [17:25] talking about lots of American [17:27] casualties and this type of escalation. [17:30] Okay? [17:31] Now, [17:34] on Thursday of that week, so we're [17:36] talking now 2 days before the B-2 bomber [17:39] attack. Of course, no one knew the B the [17:40] B-2 bomber attack was going to happen. [17:42] So, I'm putting Let's get back into the [17:43] mindset of where we were during that [17:45] week. We didn't know how long that war [17:46] was going to go on. We didn't know it [17:48] was the 12-day war at the time. We [17:50] didn't know how long it was going to go [17:51] on and we didn't know if the Americans [17:52] were going to get involved. [17:54] And there was a lot of messaging going [17:55] on back and forth. There were Israeli [17:57] dignitaries [17:59] uh such as the head of the National [18:00] Security Council in Israel, Tzachi [18:02] Hanegbi, and Foreign Minister Gideon [18:03] Saar who were saying that Israel [18:06] actually doesn't need American help and [18:07] that there's a way that Israel can take [18:09] out the nuclear facilities on its own. [18:10] It might involve a ground operation. It [18:12] could be more could be messier and [18:14] slower. [18:15] But uh officially Israel was not asking [18:17] for US help. There was a lot of rumors [18:19] that behind the scenes they were asking [18:21] for US help. And this was all part of [18:23] these arguments and debates. [18:25] On Thursday [18:27] Karoline Leavitt, the White House spokes [18:30] uh person, the uh [18:32] the press secretary [18:34] announced, and some of you might [18:36] remember this, she announced that [18:38] President Trump had decided that he [18:39] would wait [18:42] uh and think about this for and it was [18:45] the language was interesting for up to 2 [18:47] weeks. [18:48] That he would he would think about it. [18:50] And she made this announcement in the in [18:52] the afternoon [18:54] Ameri in uh East Coast time in America [18:57] on Thursday. So, it was the evening in [18:59] Israel. [19:01] And I was paying very close attention. I [19:03] often watch her press briefings live [19:06] when I catch them. If not, I I try to [19:08] watch them soon afterwards. I I I keep a [19:11] close eye on what is said about the [19:12] Middle East and what's said about Israel [19:13] in the press briefings, especially [19:16] especially when when a war like that is [19:17] going on. [19:18] And I saw her say that. [19:20] And I thought, "Oh, [19:22] President Trump is backing off. He's [19:24] holding off on a on a on an attack. [19:27] He's having second thoughts about [19:28] whether or not to take kinetic action." [19:30] Hmm. [19:31] So, I screenshotted [19:34] uh a uh the [19:37] uh the [19:39] I mean, she had said it, but I found [19:40] like online it was immediately reported [19:42] and I screenshotted a report of her [19:44] saying that Trump is going to hold off [19:45] for up to 2 weeks. [19:47] And I texted it to Steve. [19:50] And I said, "Look, [19:51] looks like you got what you wanted." [19:54] And he texted me back, being the kind [19:57] of, you know, [19:59] snarky guy that he is, which is fine. He [20:01] texted me back [20:03] a [20:04] um a a headline [20:08] that had just dropped in The Hill, which [20:10] is the Capitol Hill newspaper, [20:13] saying that he had just had lunch [20:17] at the White House, that Steve Bannon [20:19] had just had lunch at the White House [20:21] with President Trump. [20:23] Okay? So, uh [20:25] so here was that [20:27] This is ABC News. It was in The Hill [20:28] also. Former Trump advisor, this is June [20:31] 19th, 2025. Former Trump advisor Steve [20:33] Bannon was seen walking into the White [20:35] House Thursday morning. Bannon's arrival [20:38] comes as he's been vocal about the US [20:40] not getting involved in the conflict [20:42] between Iran and Israel. Okay, so that [20:44] was reported by ABC News. Steve Bannon [20:46] seen walking into the White House. That [20:47] was a big story. [20:49] Um and Politico also picked it up. So, [20:52] in Politico's coverage of this whole [20:54] thing, Trump continues meetings with [20:56] national security team over Iran. So, [20:58] this is from the same This is from the [20:59] next day, reporting on the Trump [21:02] decision to hold off for a couple of [21:04] weeks. So, in this story, it quotes [21:08] Bannon. [21:11] In the story, it quotes Bannon. [21:13] Right? So, where is it? Here. [21:19] So, it talks about Caroline Levitt [21:20] saying that uh that they're not going to [21:22] be that they're going to be holding off. [21:24] Mrs. Levitt described Mr. Trump as a [21:25] peace-through-strength president, but [21:27] he's not afraid to use strength. [21:29] War Room host and Trump ally Steve [21:30] Bannon, this is I'm sorry, this is [21:32] Washington Times, not Politico. My my [21:34] bad. War Room host and Trump ally Steve [21:36] Bannon had lunch with the president [21:38] Thursday, and while he hasn't shared [21:40] what they've discussed, he has pushed [21:42] for Israel to finish what it started [21:43] without help from the US. He told [21:46] Politico Playbook that Mr. Trump clearly [21:48] stated that he wants to look at other [21:51] alternatives to ending the conflict with [21:53] Iran before deciding to get involved [21:55] militarily. Quote, "This is a guy before [21:58] he turns to violence in terms of [22:00] military kinetic action, he looks at [22:01] every other alternative you can do. I [22:03] think it just once again reinforces the [22:05] reason that the MAGA movement loves [22:07] him." [22:08] Okay, so that's what Steve said that [22:11] day. [22:12] And this is significant. Okay? Because [22:14] what happened was again, so the way I [22:17] experienced it, Steve texts me back the [22:19] little headline that he had lunch with [22:20] Trump, essentially saying to me, "Yeah, [22:22] I convinced him." [22:24] And then, Bannon has an afternoon show. [22:26] He has a morning show from 10:00 to [22:27] 12:00, and then he has the afternoon [22:29] evening show from 5:00 to 7:00. [22:31] In his afternoon show that day on [22:33] Thursday, and then all day on Friday, [22:35] and then on Saturday, he was he was [22:37] declaring victory. That, you know, we [22:40] did it, we pulled Trump back from the [22:42] brink, you know, he's you know, we we [22:44] talked some sense into him. [22:46] And, you know, he was he was uh he was [22:49] praising the other podcasters, like Jack [22:52] Posobiec and Kurt Mills and and and [22:55] Tucker for for, you know, this [22:58] groundswell of of pressure that [23:00] prevented Trump from deciding to attack. [23:03] And then on Saturday, [23:05] of course, the B-2 bomber attack took [23:07] place. [23:08] Now, [23:09] considering the scope and complexity of [23:11] the B-2 bomber attack, it became clear [23:13] immediately upon that attack that on [23:16] Thursday, [23:19] some 48 hours before the attack, it's [23:22] quite obvious that the decision had [23:24] already been made. You don't That's not [23:26] the type of operation that could be that [23:28] is decided in terms of timing and [23:30] logistics and everything else, you know, [23:32] with a flip of a switch a few hours [23:33] before. So, it's obvious in retrospect [23:36] that while Trump was meeting with Bannon [23:38] and giving him the impression [23:40] that [23:42] that he had decided to hold off. Maybe [23:44] he did, maybe didn't. I We don't know [23:45] what was said in the meeting. We just [23:46] know what Steve said about the meeting, [23:47] and no one told Steve to go declare [23:49] victory on his podcast. [23:52] But he did. [23:53] On War Room, on his show. [23:55] Um [23:57] So, meanwhile, while Steve was doing [23:58] that, it it it becomes clear [24:00] retroactively that the decision had [24:01] already been made. [24:03] The decision had already been made to do [24:05] the attack. [24:06] And [24:08] and I believe [24:10] that that left a mark, as it were. [24:14] And the [24:16] to go back to Victor Davis Hanson's [24:18] point, [24:19] I think that part of the reason [24:23] why this whole group [24:25] maintains [24:27] that Trump doesn't really want to be [24:30] doing this, but he's been either [24:32] hoodwinked or blackmailed. They talk [24:34] about, you know, Epstein, the Mossad, [24:37] Bibi lying, that somehow they've [24:39] hoodwinked Trump, they've they've [24:40] they've [24:42] they've convinced him, they've twisted [24:43] his arm, but that it's [24:46] the reason they have to say this, [24:49] the reason they feel compelled to say [24:51] this, [24:51] is that the alternative is simply that [24:53] Trump disagrees with them. [24:57] He that he hears their arguments, but [24:59] doesn't but doesn't agree. And the truth [25:01] is, all indications are that Trump [25:02] simply disagrees with them. What do I [25:04] mean? Trump's not the best at hiding his [25:07] real feelings about things. Okay? I [25:09] mean, think about how he behaves about [25:10] everything. [25:11] He's pretty transparent about what he [25:13] feels about things. [25:15] And as much as this group will maintain [25:17] that there's some animosity between [25:19] Trump and Bibi, and Bibi's manipulating [25:20] him. You see the way they behave, the [25:22] way Trump behaves towards Bibi [25:25] from all the way back then, all the way [25:26] through till now, and all their visits. [25:27] Yeah, occasionally he drops an F-bomb on [25:29] him, but that's the way guys are, and [25:31] that's the way Trump is with lots of [25:32] people. You can see that Trump has a [25:34] very strong affinity for Netanyahu. [25:36] And and and and [25:39] going all the way back to the 1980s, as [25:41] has been well reported, and when he came [25:43] down the escalator to announce his first [25:45] term, Trump has been consistent about [25:47] being a real hawk on Iran. [25:51] So, the truth is, there's nothing [25:52] inconsistent at all about Trump's [25:54] decision. It fits in with everything he [25:55] has said about these issues for many [25:57] years. And there's no indication that he [26:01] that he was waffling on this and was [26:03] duped by Netanyahu. [26:05] But I believe that this group [26:08] it's easier for them to believe [26:11] that Trump was manipulated than for them [26:14] to believe that he simply did not agree [26:17] with their assessment. Now, to their [26:20] credit, I'll say this. [26:21] A lot of the things that they were [26:22] warning about in the 12-day war have [26:24] come to pass in this war. There is a [26:26] spike in oil prices. [26:28] There have been US casualties. [26:30] We don't know how this is going to end, [26:32] and we don't know how successful it's [26:33] going to be. We shouldn't be beating our [26:36] chest declaring victory that this all [26:38] worked out great. It didn't necessarily. [26:41] This war could still end in a disastrous [26:43] way, and it could destroy the Trump [26:45] presidency. We don't know yet. [26:48] We don't know yet. [26:50] But I just wanted to comment on what [26:52] Victor Davis Hanson said there about the [26:54] motivations of this group, and share [26:55] with you this anecdote [26:58] as I experienced it, being someone who [27:01] knows a few of these people. Hope you [27:02] found that interesting. [27:05] Please like and subscribe and share this [27:07] uh sh- you know, share this uh this [27:09] YouTube channel. We're still We're still [27:11] building it, we're still growing it. And [27:12] I'm very grateful to all of you [27:14] for uh helping that process along. [27:16] Please drop a comment. Let me know what [27:18] you thought of this. [27:19] Uh I do read [27:21] uh as many of the comments as I can. [27:23] I've gotten a lot of good advice. I've [27:24] received a lot of good advice from many [27:26] of you. And please keep it coming. God [27:28] bless you.
